In the outliner, moving an object in a collection put the object as second last, not last in the list. #73414

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Alexis Pautrot · 2020-01-26T19:43:12+01:00

Alexis Pautrot commented

2020-01-26 19:43:12 +01:00

System Information
Operating system: Windows 10
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970M

Blender Version
Broken: 2.82 Beta 2020-01-24 17:48 Hash: fc1f5bded4

Short description of error
In the outliner, moving an object to a collection moves the object above the last object in collection.
Expected the moved object to take the latest position in the list, and not to be the second last.

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error
Reproducible with any scene.

**System Information** Operating system: Windows 10 Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970M **Blender Version** Broken: 2.82 Beta 2020-01-24 17:48 Hash: fc1f5bded46a **Short description of error** In the outliner, moving an object to a collection moves the object above the last object in collection. Expected the moved object to take the latest position in the list, and not to be the second last. **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** Reproducible with any scene.

Alexis Pautrot commented

2020-01-26 19:43:12 +01:00

Added subscriber: @AlexisPautrot

Stanislav Blinov commented

2020-01-26 23:08:15 +01:00

Added subscriber: @Stan_Pancakes

Stanislav Blinov commented

2020-01-26 23:08:15 +01:00

Objects are either ordered alphabetically (enabled by default) or arbitrarily (typically in order of being added to collection). If you want the latter behavior, you'll need to turn off alphabetical sorting.

Philipp Oeser commented

2020-01-27 09:32:09 +01:00

Added subscriber: @lichtwerk

Philipp Oeser commented

2020-01-27 09:32:09 +01:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Archived'

Philipp Oeser closed this issue

2020-01-27 09:32:09 +01:00

Philipp Oeser self-assigned this 2020-01-27 09:32:09 +01:00

Philipp Oeser commented

2020-01-27 09:32:09 +01:00

In #73414#858937, @Stan_Pancakes wrote:
Objects are either ordered alphabetically (enabled by default) or arbitrarily (typically in order of being added to collection). If you want the latter behavior, you'll need to turn off alphabetical sorting.

Exactly what @Stan_Pancakes said, dont think there is a bug here, closing... thx for the report anyways.

> In #73414#858937, @Stan_Pancakes wrote: > Objects are either ordered alphabetically (enabled by default) or arbitrarily (typically in order of being added to collection). If you want the latter behavior, you'll need to turn off alphabetical sorting. Exactly what @Stan_Pancakes said, dont think there is a bug here, closing... thx for the report anyways.

Alexis Pautrot commented

2020-01-27 11:54:33 +01:00

My description wasn't detailed enough : the behavior I'm describing is when the sort option is Arbitrary (not Alphabetically). Therefore, I'm expecting object to be added "in order of being added to collection" just like you say, but the result is that an object moved in a collection does not become last of the collection order, but takes the position above the last one.

Alexis Pautrot commented

2020-01-27 12:16:32 +01:00

Here is the behavior in video :
2020-01-27 12-13-21.mp4

Here is the behavior in video : [2020-01-27 12-13-21.mp4](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8304743/2020-01-27_12-13-21.mp4)

Philipp Oeser commented

2020-01-27 12:36:08 +01:00

Hm, cannot reproduce this (checked current master, 2.82 beta and 2.83 alpha builds)
Please try with File → Defaults → Load Factory Settings to see if you still can reproduce this issue.

Hm, cannot reproduce this (checked current master, 2.82 beta and 2.83 alpha builds) Please try with File → Defaults → Load Factory Settings to see if you still can reproduce this issue.

Alexis Pautrot commented

2020-01-27 20:37:30 +01:00

Changed status from 'Archived' to: 'Resolved'

Alexis Pautrot commented

2020-01-27 20:37:30 +01:00

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Alexis Pautrot commented

2020-01-27 20:41:43 +01:00

Changed status from 'Resolved' to: 'Archived'

Alexis Pautrot commented

2020-01-27 20:41:43 +01:00

No, the factory settings hasn't solved the issue.

Also note that the issue isn't happening with the Scene Collection, but within Collection child of the Scene Collection.

No, the factory settings hasn't solved the issue. Also note that the issue isn't happening with the Scene Collection, but within Collection child of the Scene Collection.

Alexis Pautrot commented

2020-01-27 20:58:03 +01:00

Also, I don't know if this could be linked, but I'm not able to reorder items inside collections.

But from what I can read from this forum thread (https://blender.stackexchange.com/questions/156447/blender-2-8x-outliner-manually-reorder-objects-within-collection) this seems to be possible and at least fixed in v2.81a.

Also, I don't know if this could be linked, but I'm not able to reorder items inside collections. But from what I can read from this forum thread (https://blender.stackexchange.com/questions/156447/blender-2-8x-outliner-manually-reorder-objects-within-collection) this seems to be possible and at least fixed in v2.81a.

Stanislav Blinov commented

2020-01-27 21:01:30 +01:00

That thread talks about reordering collections, which is indeed possible. But we've no manual control over how objects are ordered, save for enabling alphabetical sorting. When it's disabled, the order is arbitrary (i.e. however objects end up being ordered by Blender internally).

That thread talks about reordering collections, which is indeed possible. But we've no manual control over how **objects** are ordered, save for enabling alphabetical sorting. When it's disabled, the order is arbitrary (i.e. however objects end up being ordered by Blender internally).

Alexis Pautrot commented

2020-01-28 06:13:56 +01:00

Ah, yes ok, sorry, I was mislead by the title of the thread.

Alexis Pautrot commented

2020-01-28 06:16:15 +01:00

Well I believe I can live with this behavior, specific to my workspace, if you can't reproduce it.
Thank you for your time.
Regards.

Well I believe I can live with this behavior, specific to my workspace, if you can't reproduce it. Thank you for your time. Regards.

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In the outliner, moving an object in a collection put the object as second last, not last in the list. #73414