selection of object behind other objects by clicking multiple times is reset by mouse movement. #76445

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Frankie Hobbins · 2020-05-05T16:19:22+02:00

Frankie Hobbins commented

2020-05-05 16:19:22 +02:00

System Information
Operating system: win 10
Graphics card: 2080ti

Blender Version
Broken: 2.80+
Worked: 2.79

Description
In blender 2.8 when you select overlapping objects you can click multiple times to cycle though the objects behind the initially selected object. To do this you have to hold the mouse still.
If you move the mouse pointer, when you click to cycle the selection begins again from the closest object.
In 2.79 if you move the mouse and click again it will select the next object behind.

I posted this here and was told to report as a bug https://blender.community/c/rightclickselect/R6fbbc/#5eb172569c12211f406e6629

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error
make multiple objects and have them overlap
try to select objects behind the closest object by clicking multiple times
notice if you keep the mouse pointer exactly still it will cycle objects
notice if you move the mouse pointer even a tiny bit it will restart from the first object
2.79 behaviour is expected

**System Information** Operating system: win 10 Graphics card: 2080ti **Blender Version** Broken: 2.80+ Worked: 2.79 **Description** In blender 2.8 when you select overlapping objects you can click multiple times to cycle though the objects behind the initially selected object. To do this you have to hold the mouse still. If you move the mouse pointer, when you click to cycle the selection begins again from the closest object. In 2.79 if you move the mouse and click again it will select the next object behind. I posted this here and was told to report as a bug https://blender.community/c/rightclickselect/R6fbbc/#5eb172569c12211f406e6629 **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** make multiple objects and have them overlap try to select objects behind the closest object by clicking multiple times notice if you keep the mouse pointer exactly still it will cycle objects notice if you move the mouse pointer even a tiny bit it will restart from the first object 2.79 behaviour is expected

Frankie Hobbins commented

2020-05-05 16:19:22 +02:00

Added subscriber: @FrankieHobbins

Vyacheslav Kobozev commented

2020-05-05 18:29:17 +02:00

Added subscriber: @Vyach

Vyacheslav Kobozev commented

2020-05-05 18:29:17 +02:00

Tested. True. Regression.

Germano Cavalcante commented

2020-05-05 19:32:43 +02:00

Added subscribers: @ideasman42, @mano-wii

Germano Cavalcante commented

2020-05-05 19:32:43 +02:00

On the one hand this would be useful for pen users - since it is difficult to click on the same point.
But on the other hand it would make it a bit more difficult to move with press and drag - since you would have to make sure that another object is not selected.

I'm not sure if this change was intentional.
@ideasman42, do you know why this was changed?

On the one hand this would be useful for pen users - since it is difficult to click on the same point. But on the other hand it would make it a bit more difficult to move with `press and drag` - since you would have to make sure that another object is not selected. I'm not sure if this change was intentional. @ideasman42, do you know why this was changed?

Vyacheslav Kobozev commented

2020-05-05 21:33:13 +02:00

@mano-wii there is no problem, because it is not «click and drag» it is «press and drag». So selection of another object can be done only after release, and only if there was no drag.
Now selection of back object done with press LMB not with click.

@mano-wii there is no problem, because it is not «click and drag» it is «press and drag». So selection of another object can be done only after release, and only if there was no drag. Now selection of back object done with press LMB not with click.

Germano Cavalcante commented

2020-05-05 21:48:27 +02:00

I meant press and drag, click and drag doesn't really make much sense. I'll edit

I meant `press and drag`, `click and drag` doesn't really make much sense. I'll edit

Vyacheslav Kobozev commented

2020-05-05 21:56:10 +02:00

2020-05-05_22-50-37.mp4
I did try to tune selection to release and found there is at least 2 operators: main selection and tweak-tool selection.
Are there any obstacles to separate clicks and drags?

[2020-05-05_22-50-37.mp4](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8514498/2020-05-05_22-50-37.mp4) I did try to tune selection to release and found there is at least 2 operators: main selection and tweak-tool selection. Are there any obstacles to separate clicks and drags?

Campbell Barton commented

2020-05-06 00:47:49 +02:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Archived'

Campbell Barton closed this issue

2020-05-06 00:47:49 +02:00

Campbell Barton self-assigned this 2020-05-06 00:47:49 +02:00

Campbell Barton commented

2020-05-06 00:47:49 +02:00

Selection cycling is intentionally reset on cursor motion.

Tested 2.79b and found this works the same as 2.8x.

Selection cycling is intentionally reset on cursor motion. Tested 2.79b and found this works the same as 2.8x.

Vyacheslav Kobozev commented

2020-05-06 02:40:00 +02:00

@cambellbarton
Not totally the same. For 2.79 if front body already selected, next click always will select the second.
And I am not sure, it is a good begavior: I prefer one spare click but safe selection.
But the problem for pen can be solved with move-threshold tuning

@cambellbarton Not totally the same. For 2.79 if front body already selected, next click always will select the second. And I am not sure, it is a good begavior: I prefer one spare click but safe selection. But the problem for pen can be solved with move-threshold tuning

Campbell Barton commented

2020-05-06 03:25:08 +02:00

Changed status from 'Archived' to: 'Confirmed'

Campbell Barton reopened this issue

2020-05-06 03:25:08 +02:00

Campbell Barton commented

2020-05-06 03:25:09 +02:00

The steps you listed to reproduce the problem are working as intended.

The issue is when the front-most object is already selected you're expecting it to cycle, even when you have moved the cursor.

Agree this should be made to work like 2.79.

The steps you listed to reproduce the problem are working as intended. The issue is when the front-most object is already selected you're expecting it to cycle, even when you have moved the cursor. Agree this should be made to work like 2.79.

blender-admin commented

2020-05-06 04:18:18 +02:00

This issue was referenced by c6aa014d3a

This issue was referenced by c6aa014d3abb0a2240cb7293d58c86be16b02ab3

Campbell Barton commented

2020-05-06 04:23:43 +02:00

Changed status from 'Confirmed' to: 'Resolved'

Campbell Barton closed this issue

2020-05-06 04:23:43 +02:00

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selection of object behind other objects by clicking multiple times is reset by mouse movement. #76445