Interrupt action with RMB doesn't work in tablet mode, when "Release Confirms" is checked in preferences #77112

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Christoph Werner · 2020-05-27T18:36:00+02:00

Christoph Werner commented

2020-05-27 18:36:00 +02:00

System Information
renderer: 'GeForce GTX 1080 Ti/PCIe/SSE2'
vendor: 'NVIDIA Corporation'
version: '4.5.0 NVIDIA 442.59'
pen tablet hardware: Intuos 5 by Wacom

Blender Version
version: 2.82 (sub 7), branch: master, commit date: 2020-03-12 05:06, hash: 375c7dc4ca, type: Release
build date: 2020-03-12, 15:41:08
platform: Windows

Short description of error
While editing an object in Blender it is possible to interrupt an action by pressing the right mouse button.
Example: Move an object with left mouse button, hold the left mouse button and press the right one addionally.

The action will be interrupted and the object moves back to it's original position.

But all this isn't working when you try this with a tablet pen and use the "Tweak" tool in combination using a wacom tablet for example.

The workaround for tablet users is to uncheck the "Release Confirms" function in the input section of Blenders preferences.
But then you have the problem of confirming all actions by using the pen tip, because it reperents the left mouse button.

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error

Only effects when using a tablet device, like a wacom tablet!

Move the default cube in Blender by dragging it somewhere and keep holding the pen tip! Use the Tweak tool for this, please.
Press the pen button now, that is assigned as your right mouse button.

Instead of interrupting the action, the object context menu dialog appears.

Expected action: Interrupting the cube movement.

**System Information** renderer: 'GeForce GTX 1080 Ti/PCIe/SSE2' vendor: 'NVIDIA Corporation' version: '4.5.0 NVIDIA 442.59' pen tablet hardware: Intuos 5 by Wacom **Blender Version** version: 2.82 (sub 7), branch: master, commit date: 2020-03-12 05:06, hash: 375c7dc4caf4, type: Release build date: 2020-03-12, 15:41:08 platform: Windows **Short description of error** While editing an object in Blender it is possible to interrupt an action by pressing the right mouse button. Example: Move an object with left mouse button, hold the left mouse button and press the right one addionally. - > The action will be interrupted and the object moves back to it's original position. But all this isn't working when you try this with a tablet pen and use the "Tweak" tool in combination using a wacom tablet for example. The workaround for tablet users is to uncheck the "Release Confirms" function in the input section of Blenders preferences. But then you have the problem of confirming all actions by using the pen tip, because it reperents the left mouse button. **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** *Only effects when using a tablet device, like a wacom tablet!* 1. Move the default cube in Blender by dragging it somewhere and keep holding the pen tip! Use the **Tweak tool** for this, please. 2. Press the pen button now, that is assigned as your right mouse button. - > Instead of interrupting the action, the object context menu dialog appears. **Expected action:** Interrupting the cube movement. ![blender_tablet_right_mouse_button01.jpg](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8558179/blender_tablet_right_mouse_button01.jpg)

Christoph Werner commented

2020-05-27 18:36:00 +02:00

Added subscriber: @ChristophWerner

Christoph Werner changed title from ~~Interrupt action with RMB doesn't work in tablet mode, when "Release conform" in prefs is checked~~ to Interrupt action with RMB doesn't work in tablet mode, when "Release confirm" in prefs is checked

2020-05-27 18:36:20 +02:00

Christoph Werner changed title from ~~Interrupt action with RMB doesn't work in tablet mode, when "Release confirm" in prefs is checked~~ to Interrupt action with RMB doesn't work in tablet mode, when "Release Confirms" is checked in preferences

2020-05-27 18:37:12 +02:00

Campbell Barton commented

2020-05-29 09:31:08 +02:00

Added subscriber: @ideasman42

Campbell Barton commented

2020-05-29 09:31:08 +02:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs User Info'

Campbell Barton commented

2020-05-29 09:31:08 +02:00

Tested with a wacom intuos 3 on Linux and can't redo this, with/without release to confirm, right mouse always cancels and never opens the context menu.

Can you double check this happens from factory settings?

Tested with a wacom intuos 3 on Linux and can't redo this, with/without release to confirm, right mouse always cancels and never opens the context menu. Can you double check this happens from factory settings?

Christoph Werner commented

2020-05-29 12:23:34 +02:00

I'm using a intuos 4 Wacom Tablet in windows 10.
It's still happen with factory settings. Have reloaded the factory settings in the prefs and made another test.

See this video recording: https://youtu.be/EouX02N3_VM

I'm using a intuos 4 Wacom Tablet in windows 10. It's still happen with factory settings. Have reloaded the factory settings in the prefs and made another test. See this video recording: https://youtu.be/EouX02N3_VM

Campbell Barton commented

2020-06-16 04:41:54 +02:00

Changed status from 'Needs User Info' to: 'Needs Developer To Reproduce'

Campbell Barton commented

2020-06-16 04:41:54 +02:00

This could be spesific to windows or your configuration, if it was a common problem I'd assume we'd get many more reports about this though.

Could someone on windows with an intuos 4 test this?
@ChristophWerner could you try this on another computer? or see if the issue is spesific to your configuration?

This could be spesific to windows or your configuration, if it was a common problem I'd assume we'd get many more reports about this though. - Could someone on windows with an intuos 4 test this? - @ChristophWerner could you try this on another computer? or see if the issue is spesific to your configuration?

Christoph Werner commented

2020-06-16 10:04:42 +02:00

Hi Campbell.

I've asked a friend to test it on his computer with Blender 2.83 and a wacom intuos 5.
He gets the same issue. When he tries to drag an object and press the right mousebutton by using his wacom pen, then the object menu appear, instead of the expected action interruption.

I guess the most wacom users works different and are using control gizmos for editing. My friend for example is using his wacom tablet to control all apps. He never used the the right mouse button to interrupt an action in Blender.
Instead he use the regular undo. Maybe it's just he, but I think tablet users think different overall.

So to answer your question:
Yes. The same happen on a different windows 10 installation and a wacom intuos tablet.
So we tested it here with two different windows 10 systems and a wacom intuos version 4 and 5.

Hi Campbell. I've asked a friend to test it on his computer with Blender 2.83 and a wacom intuos 5. He gets the same issue. When he tries to drag an object and press the right mousebutton by using his wacom pen, then the object menu appear, instead of the expected action interruption. I guess the most wacom users works different and are using control gizmos for editing. My friend for example is using his wacom tablet to control all apps. He never used the the right mouse button to interrupt an action in Blender. Instead he use the regular undo. Maybe it's just he, but I think tablet users think different overall. So to answer your question: Yes. The same happen on a different windows 10 installation and a wacom intuos tablet. So we tested it here with two different windows 10 systems and a wacom intuos version 4 and 5.

Philipp Oeser commented

2020-06-17 18:54:00 +02:00

Added subscriber: @lichtwerk

Philipp Oeser commented

2020-06-17 18:54:00 +02:00

Also cannot reproduce with a Intuos 4 Wacom Tablet on Linux.
Will tag as Windows-only issue for now.

Also cannot reproduce with a Intuos 4 Wacom Tablet on Linux. Will tag as Windows-only issue for now.

Nicholas Rishel commented

2020-10-22 03:25:37 +02:00

Added subscriber: @PrototypeNM1

Nicholas Rishel commented

2020-10-22 03:25:37 +02:00

Could not reproduce on a Surface device (Windows Ink) or a Wacom Bamboo (Wintab or Windows Ink).

Nicholas Rishel commented

2020-10-22 03:28:14 +02:00

@lichtwerk (sorry, tagged the wrong person) ~~could you recreate the issue with [this build ]] and copy the system console [ https:*developer.blender.org/paste/edit/form/default/ | here ?~~

@lichtwerk (sorry, tagged the wrong person) ~~could you recreate the issue with [this build ]] and copy the system console [[ https:*developer.blender.org/paste/edit/form/default/ | here ](https:*blender.community/c/graphicall/Wlbbbc/)?~~

Christoph Werner commented

2020-10-22 09:29:49 +02:00

Update:
I've added some more details to my bug post. It happens only if you use the "Tweak" Tool.
All is fine pressing "g".

**Update:** I've added some more details to my bug post. It happens only if you use the "Tweak" Tool. All is fine pressing "g".

Nicholas Rishel commented

2020-10-22 10:13:05 +02:00

@ChristophWerner could you recreate the issue with [this build ]] and copy the system console [ https:*developer.blender.org/paste/edit/form/default/ | here ?

Edit: I retested with the updated instructions and was able to recreate the issue at least on one Windows Ink device. Will investigate.

@ChristophWerner could you recreate the issue with [this build ]] and copy the system console [[ https:*developer.blender.org/paste/edit/form/default/ | here ](https:*blender.community/c/graphicall/Wlbbbc/)? Edit: I retested with the updated instructions and was able to recreate the issue at least on one Windows Ink device. Will investigate.

Nicholas Rishel self-assigned this 2020-10-22 10:31:21 +02:00

Nicholas Rishel commented

2020-10-22 10:31:37 +02:00

Changed status from 'Needs Developer To Reproduce' to: 'Confirmed'

Philipp Oeser commented

2020-10-22 10:51:10 +02:00

Still no issue on Linux.

Christoph Werner commented

2020-10-22 11:42:20 +02:00

In #77112#1039152, @PrototypeNM1 wrote:
@ChristophWerner could you recreate the issue with [this build ]] and copy the system console [ https:*developer.blender.org/paste/edit/form/default/ | here ?

Edit: I retested with the updated instructions and was able to recreate the issue at least on one Windows Ink device. Will investigate.

Thank you.

> In #77112#1039152, @PrototypeNM1 wrote: > @ChristophWerner could you recreate the issue with [this build ]] and copy the system console [[ https:*developer.blender.org/paste/edit/form/default/ | here ](https:*blender.community/c/graphicall/Wlbbbc/)? > > Edit: I retested with the updated instructions and was able to recreate the issue at least on one Windows Ink device. Will investigate. Thank you.

Nicholas Rishel commented

2020-10-23 00:46:49 +02:00

@ChristophWerner

Can you check what Tablet API you are using (Edit > Preferences > Input > Tablet > Tablet API)?
I still need your input for the build in my last comment even though the issue is confirmed.

@ChristophWerner - Can you check what Tablet API you are using (Edit > Preferences > Input > Tablet > Tablet API)?![image.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F9039028/image.png) - I still need your input for the build in my last comment even though the issue is confirmed.

Nicholas Rishel commented

2020-10-23 05:58:05 +02:00

Changed status from 'Confirmed' to: 'Needs User Info'

Christoph Werner commented

2020-10-23 09:26:43 +02:00

It's "Automatic".
I've tested it and the issue happens in all Tablet API modes.

It's "Automatic". I've tested it and the issue happens in all Tablet API modes. ![image.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F9045153/image.png)

Christoph Werner commented

2020-10-23 09:37:44 +02:00

In #77112#1039152, @PrototypeNM1 wrote:
@ChristophWerner could you recreate the issue with [this build ]] and copy the system console [ https:*developer.blender.org/paste/edit/form/default/ | here ?

Edit: I retested with the updated instructions and was able to recreate the issue at least on one Windows Ink device. Will investigate.

Same issue with the build you asked for:

My Log file: P1734

> In #77112#1039152, @PrototypeNM1 wrote: > @ChristophWerner could you recreate the issue with [this build ]] and copy the system console [[ https:*developer.blender.org/paste/edit/form/default/ | here ](https:*blender.community/c/graphicall/Wlbbbc/)? > > Edit: I retested with the updated instructions and was able to recreate the issue at least on one Windows Ink device. Will investigate. Same issue with the build you asked for: My Log file: [P1734](https://archive.blender.org/developer/P1734.txt)

Nicholas Rishel commented

2020-10-24 07:42:22 +02:00

The behavior you're seeing is because the Automatic Tablet API is falling back to Windows Ink. The behavior you see is a known limitation for that API. It shouldn't be falling back like that.

I've uploaded a build with some changes, could you test [this build ]], and if it doesn't fix the issue upload the log [ https:*developer.blender.org/paste/edit/form/default/ | here (so the report doesn't become a wall of logs).

The behavior you're seeing is because the Automatic Tablet API is falling back to Windows Ink. The behavior you see is a known limitation for that API. It shouldn't be falling back like that. I've uploaded a build with some changes, could you test [this build ]], and if it doesn't fix the issue upload the log [[ https:*developer.blender.org/paste/edit/form/default/ | here ](https:*blender.community/c/graphicall/Wlbbbc/) (so the report doesn't become a wall of logs).

Christoph Werner commented

2020-10-25 13:49:07 +01:00

In #77112#1040660, @PrototypeNM1 wrote:
The behavior you're seeing is because the Automatic Tablet API is falling back to Windows Ink. The behavior you see is a known limitation for that API. It shouldn't be falling back like that.

I've uploaded a build with some changes, could you test [this build ]], and if it doesn't fix the issue upload the log [ https:*developer.blender.org/paste/edit/form/default/ | here (so the report doesn't become a wall of logs).

Thank you. I can't execute your build and get some system errors here:

VCRUNTIME140D.dll missing
ucrtbased.dll missing
MSVCP140D.dll missing

> In #77112#1040660, @PrototypeNM1 wrote: > The behavior you're seeing is because the Automatic Tablet API is falling back to Windows Ink. The behavior you see is a known limitation for that API. It shouldn't be falling back like that. > > I've uploaded a build with some changes, could you test [this build ]], and if it doesn't fix the issue upload the log [[ https:*developer.blender.org/paste/edit/form/default/ | here ](https:*blender.community/c/graphicall/Wlbbbc/) (so the report doesn't become a wall of logs). Thank you. I can't execute your build and get some system errors here: ``` VCRUNTIME140D.dll missing ucrtbased.dll missing MSVCP140D.dll missing ```

Nicholas Rishel commented

2020-10-28 23:55:17 +01:00

In #77112#1041169, @ChristophWerner wrote:

In #77112#1040660, @PrototypeNM1 wrote:
...
I've uploaded a build with some changes, could you test [this build ]], and if it doesn't fix the issue upload the log [ https:*developer.blender.org/paste/edit/form/default/ | here (so the report doesn't become a wall of logs).

Thank you. I can't execute your build and get some system errors here:
VCRUNTIME140D.dll missing
ucrtbased.dll missing
MSVCP140D.dll missing

My fault, uploaded a debug build. :B

Please test the updated the build, same link as before.

> In #77112#1041169, @ChristophWerner wrote: >> In #77112#1040660, @PrototypeNM1 wrote: >> ... >> I've uploaded a build with some changes, could you test [this build ]], and if it doesn't fix the issue upload the log [[ https:*developer.blender.org/paste/edit/form/default/ | here ](https:*blender.community/c/graphicall/Wlbbbc/) (so the report doesn't become a wall of logs). > > Thank you. I can't execute your build and get some system errors here: > > > ``` > VCRUNTIME140D.dll missing > ucrtbased.dll missing > MSVCP140D.dll missing > ``` My fault, uploaded a debug build. :B Please test the updated the build, same link as before.

Christoph Werner commented

2020-10-29 08:29:03 +01:00

Feedback:
In your latest build the left mouse button drag function doesn't work with the wacom pen.
I can click with the pen tip, but when I hold then nothing happen. Even options in pull down menus can't be chosen, because I'm not able to drag by holding the left mouse button.

Log file: P1738

Feedback: In your latest build the left mouse button drag function doesn't work with the wacom pen. I can click with the pen tip, but when I hold then nothing happen. Even options in pull down menus can't be chosen, because I'm not able to drag by holding the left mouse button. Log file: [P1738](https://archive.blender.org/developer/P1738.txt)

Nicholas Rishel commented

2020-11-14 03:57:01 +01:00

@ChristophWerner I [updated the build ]] with additional logging, could you recreate the bug and [ https:*developer.blender.org/paste/edit/form/default/ | upload the console log again?

@ChristophWerner I [updated the build ]] with additional logging, could you recreate the bug and [[ https:*developer.blender.org/paste/edit/form/default/ | upload the console log ](https:*blender.community/c/graphicall/Wlbbbc/) again?

Christoph Werner commented

2020-11-16 08:21:25 +01:00

Cosole log is empty for any reason. No data is written. So here are my observations with the latest version:

Tweak mode (Mouse): Right mouse button interruption works in all modes
"G"-key mode (Wacom Tablet): right mouse button interruption works
Tweak tool (Wacom Tablet): Movement doesn't interrupt - "object menu" opens at right mouse button click instead

Note for preferences:
Both "Automatic" mode and "Wintab" mode doesn't work by using a Wacom tablet. Nothing happen by using a pen.
Only "Windows Ink" mode works and have to be set in the prefs by the user (Is not detected automatically).

Cosole log is empty for any reason. No data is written. So here are my observations with the latest version: - Tweak mode (Mouse): Right mouse button interruption works in all modes - "G"-key mode (Wacom Tablet): right mouse button interruption works - Tweak tool (Wacom Tablet): Movement doesn't interrupt - "object menu" opens at right mouse button click instead Note for preferences: Both "Automatic" mode and "Wintab" mode doesn't work by using a Wacom tablet. Nothing happen by using a pen. Only "Windows Ink" mode works and have to be set in the prefs by the user (Is not detected automatically).

Nicholas Rishel commented

2020-11-17 00:42:10 +01:00

I fixed the issue with the system console not working, [download build here ]] and [ https:*developer.blender.org/paste/edit/form/default/ | paste console here .

I fixed the issue with the system console not working, [download build here ]] and [[ https:*developer.blender.org/paste/edit/form/default/ | paste console here ](https:*blender.community/c/graphicall/Wlbbbc/).

Christoph Werner commented

2020-11-17 10:04:36 +01:00

Here is the log file from today morning: P1779

Here is the log file from today morning: [P1779](https://archive.blender.org/developer/P1779.txt)

Nicholas Rishel commented

2020-12-24 11:42:14 +01:00

I think #83120 might be a duplicate of this bug. Could you confirm whether right click cancel previously worked for this hardware, or was it new hardware and you found this was an issue? If not new hardware, could you check if the driver was updated around the same time?

~~Also, can you try run Blender from console with --debug-events?
https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/latest/advanced/command_line/launch/windows.html ~~

~~Optionally you can put this file in the same directory as blender.exe and run it (blender_debug_events.cmd).~~
blender_debug_events.cmd

After that, try to replicate the problem with a few steps and then close the blender.
After Blender closes, the logs will be in a text file which can be attached here.

I think #83120 might be a duplicate of this bug. Could you confirm whether right click cancel previously worked for this hardware, or was it new hardware and you found this was an issue? If not new hardware, could you check if the driver was updated around the same time? ~~Also, can you try run Blender from console with `--debug-events`? https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/latest/advanced/command_line/launch/windows.html ~~ ~~Optionally you can put this file in the same directory as `blender.exe` and run it (`blender_debug_events.cmd`).~~ [blender_debug_events.cmd](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F9380941/blender_debug_events.cmd) ~~After that, try to replicate the problem with a few steps and then close the blender. After Blender closes, the logs will be in a text file which can be attached here.~~

Nicholas Rishel commented

2020-12-29 02:26:37 +01:00

@ChristophWerner disregard the above, could you repeat the bug in this build, copy the system console to this link, and link the paste in a reply to this report?

@ChristophWerner disregard the above, could you repeat the bug in [this build](https:*blender.community/c/graphicall/Wlbbbc/), copy the system console [to this link](https:*developer.blender.org/paste/edit/form/default/), and link the paste in a reply to this report?

Christoph Werner commented

2021-01-05 09:53:35 +01:00

In #77112#1083793, @PrototypeNM1 wrote:
@ChristophWerner disregard the above, could you repeat the bug in this build, copy the system console to this link, and link the paste in a reply to this report?

Hi Nicholas. First a Happy new year to you! :)

I've tested your link for the recent build and it worked directly like expected. Great!
Do you still need the system console output?

> In #77112#1083793, @PrototypeNM1 wrote: > @ChristophWerner disregard the above, could you repeat the bug in [this build](https:*blender.community/c/graphicall/Wlbbbc/), copy the system console [to this link](https:*developer.blender.org/paste/edit/form/default/), and link the paste in a reply to this report? Hi Nicholas. First a Happy new year to you! :) I've tested your link for the recent build and it worked directly like expected. Great! Do you still need the system console output?

Nicholas Rishel commented

2021-01-05 10:31:30 +01:00

Changed status from 'Needs User Info' to: 'Resolved'

Nicholas Rishel closed this issue

2021-01-05 10:31:30 +01:00

Nicholas Rishel commented

2021-01-05 10:31:30 +01:00

Nope, if the issue is gone there wouldn't be anything interesting in the log. Thanks for confirming. :)

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Interrupt action with RMB doesn't work in tablet mode, when "Release Confirms" is checked in preferences #77112