3D Viewport draw order of objects seems backwards or see through #77350

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AnityEx · 2020-06-04T09:32:41+02:00

AnityEx commented

2020-06-04 09:32:41 +02:00

System Information
Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.18362-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600 Intel 4.3.0 - Build 20.19.15.4531

Blender Version
Broken: version: 2.83.0, branch: master, commit date: 2020-06-03 14:38, hash: 211b6c29f7
Worked: 2.82a

Short description of error
sections of objects that are meant to be behind or inside objects are drawn over other objects like a xray mode but less opaque

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error
open blender click middle mouse and the grid will show up over the default cube (tried with a all the default configs and the "see shortcuts" add on active) even bones will show up without being "always on top" active
Blender 2020-06-04 01-16-59.mp4

**System Information** Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.18362-SP0 64 Bits Graphics card: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600 Intel 4.3.0 - Build 20.19.15.4531 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 2.83.0, branch: master, commit date: 2020-06-03 14:38, hash: `211b6c29f7` Worked: 2.82a **Short description of error** sections of objects that are meant to be behind or inside objects are drawn over other objects like a xray mode but less opaque **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** open blender click middle mouse and the grid will show up over the default cube (tried with a all the default configs and the "see shortcuts" add on active) even bones will show up without being "always on top" active [Blender 2020-06-04 01-16-59.mp4](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8575924/Blender_2020-06-04_01-16-59.mp4)

AnityEx commented

2020-06-04 09:32:41 +02:00

Added subscriber: @AnityEx

Alaska commented

2020-06-04 09:41:53 +02:00

Added subscriber: @Alaska

Alaska commented

2020-06-04 09:41:53 +02:00

This is most likely a graphics driver issue. According to the Blender requirements , the oldest Intel GPU is from the Haswell generation. You GPU is from the Haswell generation. This means for the best usability in Blender, you should be using the most up to date graphics drivers. They can be downloaded from here: https:*downloadcenter.intel.com/product/81496/Intel-HD-Graphics-4600

This is most likely a graphics driver issue. According to the [Blender requirements ](https:*www.blender.org/download/requirements/), the oldest Intel GPU is from the Haswell generation. You GPU is from the Haswell generation. This means for the best usability in Blender, you should be using the most up to date graphics drivers. They can be downloaded from here: https:*downloadcenter.intel.com/product/81496/Intel-HD-Graphics-4600

Alaska commented

2020-06-04 09:42:00 +02:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs User Info'

AnityEx commented

2020-06-04 20:53:07 +02:00

Same deal, i updated all drivers just now and restarted the computer, but it keeps showing me what its inside a cube or behind

funny thing though for some reason having shortcutuv on it makes it appear on the regular, but when it is off it only shows afer using the interactive widget or clicking with the middle mouse while it looks good

I should mention i have another graphic card on which is a gtx 1060 and i have both on for a screen each and for renders in cycles, but i updated that even before reporting this bug

Blender 2020-06-04 12-39-46.mp4

Same deal, i updated all drivers just now and restarted the computer, but it keeps showing me what its inside a cube or behind ![image.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8577335/image.png) funny thing though for some reason having shortcutuv on it makes it appear on the regular, but when it is off it only shows afer using the interactive widget or clicking with the middle mouse while it looks good I should mention i have another graphic card on which is a gtx 1060 and i have both on for a screen each and for renders in cycles, but i updated that even before reporting this bug [Blender 2020-06-04 12-39-46.mp4](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8577347/Blender_2020-06-04_12-39-46.mp4)

AnityEx commented

2020-06-05 01:50:35 +02:00

Blender 2020-06-04 17-32-56.mp4

seems to hide masks and face sets (tried on both) maybe behind of this plane
also tried face orientation and it is affected by it, no trace of it

[Blender 2020-06-04 17-32-56.mp4](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8577718/Blender_2020-06-04_17-32-56.mp4) - seems to hide masks and face sets (tried on both) maybe behind of this plane - also tried face orientation and it is affected by it, no trace of it

Alaska commented

2020-06-05 07:59:08 +02:00

Changed status from 'Needs User Info' to: 'Needs Triage'

Alaska commented

2020-06-05 07:59:08 +02:00

Sadly I don't know where to go from here.

Can you do this:
From the top of Blender select Help -> Save System Info and upload the file here.

Sadly I don't know where to go from here. Can you do this: From the top of Blender select `Help -> Save System Info` and upload the file here.

AnityEx commented

2020-06-05 08:03:58 +02:00

sure here it is
system-info.txt

sure here it is [system-info.txt](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8578286/system-info.txt)

Alaska commented

2020-06-05 09:06:21 +02:00

By chance does disabling anti-aliasing help?

Select from the top of Blender select Edit>Preferences.
Navigate to the Viewport tab.
Change "viewport anti-aliasing" to Single pass or No anti-aliasing.

By chance does disabling anti-aliasing help? Select from the top of Blender select Edit>Preferences. Navigate to the Viewport tab. Change "viewport anti-aliasing" to Single pass or No anti-aliasing.

AnityEx commented

2020-06-05 17:30:57 +02:00

done O.o

my goodness that fixed it! so many thanks dud :o

done O.o my goodness that fixed it! so many thanks dud :o ![image.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8579628/image.png)

Alaska commented

2020-06-06 00:15:29 +02:00

Added subscriber: @fclem

Alaska commented

2020-06-06 00:15:29 +02:00

Potentially related to the overlays task. #76273.

Unsure. @fclem are you able to comment?

Potentially related to the overlays task. #76273. Unsure. @fclem are you able to comment?

AnityEx commented

2020-06-06 00:27:22 +02:00

can confirm I had that bug, until i imported the old 2.82 settings that problem was gone

Germano Cavalcante commented

2020-06-08 16:43:29 +02:00

Added subscriber: @mano-wii

Germano Cavalcante commented

2020-06-08 16:43:29 +02:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs User Info'

Germano Cavalcante commented

2020-06-08 16:43:29 +02:00

Disabling anti-aliasing is a workaround and not a definitive solution.
Anyway, a similar problem has been solved recently.
Can you try the latest daily build with anti-aliasing enabled? https://builder.blender.org/download/

Disabling anti-aliasing is a workaround and not a definitive solution. Anyway, a similar problem has been solved recently. Can you try the latest daily build with anti-aliasing enabled? https://builder.blender.org/download/

AnityEx commented

2020-06-08 21:42:18 +02:00

System Information
Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.18362-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600 Intel 4.3.0 - Build 20.19.15.5126

Blender Version
Broken: version: 2.90.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2020-06-07 22:16, hash: 281319653e

(copied this so you see this is the daily 2.90)

I tried to check on it, apparently 8 samples default viewport antialiasing gives me that bug from #76273 (Overlay glitches 2.83 beta on intel HD cards. ) and when i change to single pass anti aliasing happens what i am reporting about the draw of objects in a wrong order, i assume its litteraly the same thing, but it gets worse the more samples there is

(the config window was over blender but windows records only one window at a time so when te mouse goes right im changing from 8 pass to 1 pass and no antialiasing in that order)
Blender 2020-06-08 05-08-04.mp4

**System Information** Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.18362-SP0 64 Bits Graphics card: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600 Intel 4.3.0 - Build 20.19.15.5126 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 2.90.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2020-06-07 22:16, hash: `281319653e` (copied this so you see this is the daily 2.90) I tried to check on it, apparently 8 samples default viewport antialiasing gives me that bug from #76273 (Overlay glitches 2.83 beta on intel HD cards. ) and when i change to single pass anti aliasing happens what i am reporting about the draw of objects in a wrong order, i assume its litteraly the same thing, but it gets worse the more samples there is (the config window was over blender but windows records only one window at a time so when te mouse goes right im changing from 8 pass to 1 pass and no antialiasing in that order) [Blender 2020-06-08 05-08-04.mp4](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8602514/Blender_2020-06-08_05-08-04.mp4)

Clément Foucault commented

2020-06-08 22:37:36 +02:00

@AnityEx Please try again with tomorrow's build. The build you are testing does not include the fix.

AnityEx commented

2020-06-10 08:35:56 +02:00

DONE fine and dandy the latest build does all fine even with 32 samples the problem is gone!

AnityEx commented

2020-06-10 08:36:10 +02:00

Changed status from 'Needs User Info' to: 'Archived'

AnityEx closed this issue

2020-06-10 08:36:10 +02:00

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3D Viewport draw order of objects seems backwards or see through #77350