Cycles crashes after compiling render kernels for a scene with volumetric shaders #77858
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Operating system: Windows 10
Graphics card: AMD Ryzen 5600 XT
Broken: 2.83 LTS
Worked: N/A
Whenever I try to start a render with a scene that has a volumetric shader, Blender crashes on the "Updating device | Writing constant memory | Compiling render kernels" step. It does not matter what the step size/count is. I have 16gb of memory which has been more than enough in the past. If I render on my CPU, then the render is successful
Here is the blend file. test2.blend
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Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs User Info'
This message is usually temporary.
And it only appears the first time that kernels are compiled.
Did you wait for the compilation of the kernels to complete?
It crashes after compiling, so no I haven't.
Changed status from 'Needs User Info' to: 'Needs Triage'
I tested with the attached file.
Compiling the kernels took a while but the rendering went smoothly.
However, some texture images are not in the file.
Many things can cause the problem in your GPU:
Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.18941 64 Bits
Graphics card: Radeon (TM) RX 480 Graphics ATI Technologies Inc. 4.5.13596 Core Profile Context 20.10.19.02 27.20.1019.2002
I had the AMD stats software in the corner of my screen so I could monitor my GPU. It was at a normal temperature and neither the VRAM nor my system RAM were running out of room. My power supply can handle my system at full load plus about 50 watts additionally.
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I am not sure if I can comment on a bug report as a person who didn't start it. If I can't, feel free to delete this comment.
Operating system: Windows 10
GPU: 5700XT
Broken: 2.83
Using any form of volumetrics in the scene with gpu rendering results in blender crashing/disappearing on writing constant memory/compiling render kernels. This takes about a minute from the step first appearing to the crash with nothing else happening. The window is not hanging during this time, with blender ui being fully responsive. This includes an emmision shader, principled volume, volume scatter and volume absorbtion.
Rendering in the viewport works fine even with the volumetrics enabled. Turning them off allows the full render to proceed. Rendering the scene on CPU works fine with memory peak usage at 800mb. Loading factory preferences didn't fix the issue.
While trying to render, the GPU doesn't pass 50C, VRAM utilisation stays at 15% and the power supply(750W) is more than enough.
Default cube with volume shader also crashes. Reinstall did not fix this issue.
Added subscriber: @iss
Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs User Info'
Can you download latest Blender 2.90 from https://builder.blender.org/download/ run
blender_debug_log.cmdfile and upload files created?Okay, downloaded the daily build.
The problems persist, but crashes faster. This happens on a default cube with a default principled volume in the volume output. Viewport GPU rendering also crashes now, which didn't happen in 2.83. Also I forgot to mention that I have the newest AMD driver available for my card.
blender_system_info.txt
blender_debug_output.txt
I don't see any sign of crash in
blender_debug_output.txtfile. Did you let Blender crash and these files were created after that? I guess I should have explained my intentions better.Yes I did. I am uploading a video of the crash. I also tried running the gpu debug, but it doesn't look like anything changed.
I also tried to have a look at drivers. Right now I am running an optional driver 2.5.1, but reinstalling back to the last recommended driver 2.4.2 did not change anything. The "PRO" driver for my card also did not change anything.
blender_debug_output.txt
blender_system_info.txt
BlenderCrash.mp4
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I have the same exact problem, with every version of blender 2.8+. GPU and CPU temperatures are ok (below 65°C). When starts rendering on GPU and after a certain amount of time compiling render kernel, then simply blender crashes.
Changed status from 'Needs User Info' to: 'Needs Developer To Reproduce'
I uninstalled the optional AMD driver (Adrenalin 2020 Edition 20.5.1) and installed the recommended (Adrenalin 2020 Edition 20.4.2). It worked for me.
Added subscriber: @brecht
This is curious.
@brecht, does this problem have anything to do with using OpenCL 2.0?
@echurley, can you confirm that downgrading the driver solves the problem for you too? (https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-rad-win-20-4-2)
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@mano-wii Downgrading the AMD driver to 20.4.2 did not work for me
Same problem with newest AMD drivers Adrenalin 2020 Edition 20.7.2 Optional
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Hi Guys, any news for use 2.83+ with AMD cards??
We can't use it, always crash...
Here all explained.
https:*developer.blender.org/T75319
Added subscriber: @egementncr
Update: I did a fresh Windows 10 install (for unrelated reasons) and now with the AMD recommended drivers (20.4.2) I can render volumes in cycles with my 5600 XT.
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i have the same problem just after i reinstaled windows with the newest drivers a few days ago, is there ant solutions?
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As everyone here, i got the exact same problem as in the video
any fixes?
i am using adrenalin 20.9.2
blender version is 2.90.1
Added subscriber: @Alejandro-Nevarez-Lucio
I've got the same problem since the release of the AMD new drivers, i've been just reading this thread, i've tried everything, and i have something weird besides the crash.
Sometimes (it is just random) when i hit render view with OpenCL the whole scene turns white materials, everything, the HDRI, textures, materials, it all goes white (even with factory reset default cube thing or complex scene) for a minute or two, then it crashes. This just happens from time to time, it usually just crashes when loading kernels finish.
It now happens with every latest blender version, even 2.83 LTS from windows store giving me always same problem.
I think it has something to do with Radeon Drivers, this same thing happened to me back in April, and the problem just went away with new AMD Drivers, now same thing i guess we'll have to wait for new AMD drivers and hope Blender works fine with them.
Hey everyone!
I wrote an email to the amd support and the guys who replied (amd customersupport) said: " The Rx 5700 XT is a gaming graphics card, are your games working properly? For professional applications such as blenders or other CAD / rendering or video editing software, we have the Radeon Pro graphics cards."
Thats so funny. He proposed me to buy a Radeon Pro Card instead of just fixxing the amd drivers xD
Added subscriber: @abdysn
Hi all,
everything was working with me on adrenalin 20.9.2, then i decided to upgrade to the newest 20.10.1. after which i started to encounter the same issue, reverting back to adrenalin 20.9.2 did not solve the issue. so i tried to install my device default drivers from the official site (https://www.msi.com/Laptop/support/Bravo-17-A4DDK#down-driver&Win10%2064 in my case) which installs 20.10.23. and everything started to work again.
EDIT1: actually the working version (20.10.23) is not the default version, but the recommended one from msi, since it is pretty new (was uploaded on October 6 or something), and have a higher version than the latest drivers from amd :).
Hey!
Just deinstall the radeon drivers!
It works for me now, i just have installed the newest chipset drivers for my motherboard
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Hey everyone. I finally solved it for me and I'm hella happy rn. It turned out that the solution was inside the problem. Just delete the kernels folder from appdata. You need to press Windows + R key and write %appdata%, then open blender, 2.9 (or whatever version u use) then cache, kernels and delete the folder. (kernels folder, not cache) Now you are ready to go. It will take some time at your first render in either viewport and normal render mode. But be patient and you are golden.
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Changed status from 'Needs Developer To Reproduce' to: 'Archived'
OpenCL has been removed in Blender 3.0 for AMD cards and replaced by HIP. If the issue still exists, please create a new report.