Sculpt mode not revealing hidden part of the model if Dyntopo is enabled #81045

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Paul Muns · 2020-09-22T05:26:52+02:00

Paul Muns commented

2020-09-22 05:26:52 +02:00

System Information
Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.19041-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card: Radeon (TM) RX 480 Graphics ATI Technologies Inc. 4.5.14757 Core Profile Context 20.11.2 27.20.14501.18003

Blender Version
Broken: version: 2.92.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2021-01-03 01:04, hash: 1e8f266591
Worked: (newest version of Blender that worked as expected)

Short description of error
Command to unhide part of the mesh ({key Alt H}) has no effect if Dyntopo is enabled.

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error

Open attached file
Hide the selected part of the mesh ({key H})
Go to sculpt mode (You can unhide the geometry)
Enable Dyntopo
Try unhide the geometry ({key Alt H})
You cant now.
DyntotoTest.blend

**System Information** Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.19041-SP0 64 Bits Graphics card: Radeon (TM) RX 480 Graphics ATI Technologies Inc. 4.5.14757 Core Profile Context 20.11.2 27.20.14501.18003 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 2.92.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2021-01-03 01:04, hash: `1e8f266591` Worked: (newest version of Blender that worked as expected) **Short description of error** Command to unhide part of the mesh ({key Alt H}) has no effect if Dyntopo is enabled. **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** - Open attached file - Hide the selected part of the mesh ({key H}) - Go to sculpt mode (You can unhide the geometry) - Enable Dyntopo - Try unhide the geometry ({key Alt H}) You cant now. [DyntotoTest.blend](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F9553552/DyntotoTest.blend)

Paul Muns commented

2020-09-22 05:26:52 +02:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs Developer To Reproduce'

Paul Muns commented

2020-09-22 05:26:52 +02:00

Added subscriber: @PaulM44

Philipp Oeser commented

2020-09-22 10:32:07 +02:00

Added subscriber: @lichtwerk

Philipp Oeser commented

2020-09-22 10:32:07 +02:00

Changed status from 'Needs Developer To Reproduce' to: 'Resolved'

Philipp Oeser closed this issue

2020-09-22 10:32:07 +02:00

Philipp Oeser self-assigned this 2020-09-22 10:32:07 +02:00

Philipp Oeser commented

2020-09-22 10:32:07 +02:00

Can confirm in 2.90, but this was fixed already in 2.91, see blender/blender-staging@cacd57b67a

Fix will be in 2.90.1, see #80396 (Potential candidates for corrective releases)

Until then, please try a frash 2.91 build from https://builder.blender.org/download/ (fix is in there)

Can confirm in 2.90, but this was fixed already in 2.91, see blender/blender-staging@cacd57b67a Fix will be in 2.90.1, see #80396 (Potential candidates for corrective releases) Until then, please try a frash 2.91 build from https://builder.blender.org/download/ (fix is in there)

Paul Muns commented

2020-09-22 21:55:31 +02:00

This problem is worse: Blender crashed using Shift-H and Alt- H in sculpt mode. This is the latest build created Today, 5:34 AM: The UN-hidden didn't appear initially until playing with Dyntopo again and then trying to get the rest of the mesh back with Alt-H caused the crash:
Process: Blender [16535]
Path: /Users/USER/*/Blender 2.91a2.app/Contents/MacOS/Blender
Identifier: org.blenderfoundation.blender
Version: 2.91.0 (2.91.0 2020-09-22)
Code Type: X86-64 (Native)
Parent Process: ??? [1]
Responsible: Blender [16535]
User ID: 501

Date/Time: 2020-09-22 12:40:25.305 -0700
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.15.6 (19G2021)
Report Version: 12
Anonymous UUID: E5A6D88C-4F8E-4F17-D3EF-A97E347D933F

Sleep/Wake UUID: EA3C6A7B-FE6A-46AA-99F7-C0A892FA1093

Time Awake Since Boot: 470000 seconds
Time Since Wake: 2200 seconds

System Integrity Protection: enabled

Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

Exception Type: EXC_BAD_INSTRUCTION (SIGILL)
Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000001, 0x0000000000000000
Exception Note: EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY

Termination Signal: Illegal instruction: 4
Termination Reason: Namespace SIGNAL, Code 0x4
Terminating Process: exc handler [16535]

Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0 libsystem_malloc.dylib 0x00007fff6b94df3e nanov2_allocate_from_block.cold.1 + 31
1 libsystem_malloc.dylib 0x00007fff6b92e9b1 nanov2_allocate_from_block + 574
2 libsystem_malloc.dylib 0x00007fff6b92df2b nanov2_allocate + 130
3 libsystem_malloc.dylib 0x00007fff6b92de58 nanov2_malloc + 56
4 libsystem_malloc.dylib 0x00007fff6b92dd7a malloc_zone_malloc + 104
5 libsystem_malloc.dylib 0x00007fff6b92dcf5 malloc + 21 .....
ad nauseam.....

This problem is worse: Blender crashed using Shift-H and Alt- H in sculpt mode. This is the latest build created Today, 5:34 AM: The UN-hidden didn't appear initially until playing with Dyntopo again and then trying to get the rest of the mesh back with Alt-H caused the crash: Process: Blender [16535] Path: /Users/USER/*/Blender 2.91a2.app/Contents/MacOS/Blender Identifier: org.blenderfoundation.blender Version: 2.91.0 (2.91.0 2020-09-22) Code Type: X86-64 (Native) Parent Process: ??? [1] Responsible: Blender [16535] User ID: 501 Date/Time: 2020-09-22 12:40:25.305 -0700 OS Version: Mac OS X 10.15.6 (19G2021) Report Version: 12 Anonymous UUID: E5A6D88C-4F8E-4F17-D3EF-A97E347D933F Sleep/Wake UUID: EA3C6A7B-FE6A-46AA-99F7-C0A892FA1093 Time Awake Since Boot: 470000 seconds Time Since Wake: 2200 seconds System Integrity Protection: enabled Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread Exception Type: EXC_BAD_INSTRUCTION (SIGILL) Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000001, 0x0000000000000000 Exception Note: EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY Termination Signal: Illegal instruction: 4 Termination Reason: Namespace SIGNAL, Code 0x4 Terminating Process: exc handler [16535] Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread 0 libsystem_malloc.dylib 0x00007fff6b94df3e nanov2_allocate_from_block.cold.1 + 31 1 libsystem_malloc.dylib 0x00007fff6b92e9b1 nanov2_allocate_from_block + 574 2 libsystem_malloc.dylib 0x00007fff6b92df2b nanov2_allocate + 130 3 libsystem_malloc.dylib 0x00007fff6b92de58 nanov2_malloc + 56 4 libsystem_malloc.dylib 0x00007fff6b92dd7a malloc_zone_malloc + 104 5 libsystem_malloc.dylib 0x00007fff6b92dcf5 malloc + 21 ..... ad nauseam.....

Philipp Oeser commented

2020-09-22 22:45:08 +02:00

Changed status from 'Resolved' to: 'Needs Triage'

Philipp Oeser reopened this issue

2020-09-22 22:45:08 +02:00

Philipp Oeser removed their assignment 2020-09-22 22:45:36 +02:00

Richard Antalik commented

2020-09-29 19:06:05 +02:00

Added subscriber: @iss

Richard Antalik commented

2020-09-29 19:06:05 +02:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs User Info'

Richard Antalik commented

2020-09-29 19:06:05 +02:00

I can't reproduce this crash. @PaulM44 can you provide steps to cause it?

Paul Muns commented

2020-09-29 21:18:22 +02:00

I suspect that my GPU is not a good candidate for using Blender. I seem to find a lot of problems that no one else has mentioned yet.

There needs to be a way of locking the GPU out of using this APP and using just the CPU apparantly--maybe there is and I just don't know about it. I can then go through some of the problems I have found and see if they just disappear.... Let me know.

My description above is exactly how the Hide feature is not working and I have repeated it multiple;e times with the same result, even yesterday. It is really obvious if it doesn't work when going from Modeling with just the horse head showing (still all selected or not) and then to Sculpt and the whole horse is there again until the Dyntopo / Smooth Shading is selected and just the head is there again.

I suspect that my GPU is not a good candidate for using Blender. I seem to find a lot of problems that no one else has mentioned yet. There needs to be a way of locking the GPU out of using this APP and using just the CPU apparantly--maybe there is and I just don't know about it. I can then go through some of the problems I have found and see if they just disappear.... Let me know. My description above is exactly how the Hide feature is not working and I have repeated it multiple;e times with the same result, even yesterday. It is really obvious if it doesn't work when going from Modeling with just the horse head showing (still all selected or not) and then to Sculpt and the whole horse is there again until the Dyntopo / Smooth Shading is selected and just the head is there again.

Richard Antalik commented

2020-10-01 13:19:11 +02:00

Here are requirements for Blender: https://www.blender.org/download/requirements/
What is your GPU? Can you click on Help > Report a Bug and update description?

There are reports with GPU glitches and such on MacOS, since they decided to drop support for openGL. Using CPU only is technically possible with SW openGL emulation, but it is very slow.

Here are requirements for Blender: https://www.blender.org/download/requirements/ What is your GPU? Can you click on Help > Report a Bug and update description? There are reports with GPU glitches and such on MacOS, since they decided to drop support for openGL. Using CPU only is technically possible with SW openGL emulation, but it is very slow.

Paul Muns commented

2020-10-01 21:12:13 +02:00

My GPU is a premium buy for Mac:

Radeon Pro Vega 48:

Chipset Model:	Radeon Pro Vega 48
Type:	GPU
Bus:	PCIe
PCIe Lane Width:	x16
VRAM (Total):	8 GB
Vendor:	AMD (0x1002)
Device ID:	0x6869
Revision ID:	0x0000
ROM Revision:	113-D0650E-072
VBIOS Version:	113-D05001A1XG-011
Option ROM Version:	113-D05001A1XG-011
EFI Driver Version:	01.01.072
Metal:	Supported, feature set macOS GPUFamily2 v1
Displays:

iMac:

Display Type:	Built-In Retina LCD
Resolution:	5120 x 2880 Retina
Framebuffer Depth:	30-Bit Color (ARGB2101010)
Main Display:	Yes
Mirror:	Off
Online:	Yes
Automatically Adjust Brightness:	No
Connection Type:	Internal

The rest of the system is 1T SSD drive with 500G SSD USB 3.0 for cache / extras.... The system was bought the end of 2019 with the hope of doing this kind of work since my 2009 Mac would nearly catch fire doing a cycles render. I have been having continuous problems in unexpected ways and wonder if it is even worth reporting here anymore as it obviously is not a supported system as no one else has these problems. Very disappointing indeed. I am not going back to MS after the constant crash problems with Vista. I wonder if any video card available for this system would work any differently with openGL not supported.....

My GPU is a premium buy for Mac: **** Radeon Pro Vega 48: ``` Chipset Model: Radeon Pro Vega 48 Type: GPU Bus: PCIe PCIe Lane Width: x16 VRAM (Total): 8 GB Vendor: AMD (0x1002) Device ID: 0x6869 Revision ID: 0x0000 ROM Revision: 113-D0650E-072 VBIOS Version: 113-D05001A1XG-011 Option ROM Version: 113-D05001A1XG-011 EFI Driver Version: 01.01.072 Metal: Supported, feature set macOS GPUFamily2 v1 Displays: ``` iMac: ``` Display Type: Built-In Retina LCD Resolution: 5120 x 2880 Retina Framebuffer Depth: 30-Bit Color (ARGB2101010) Main Display: Yes Mirror: Off Online: Yes Automatically Adjust Brightness: No Connection Type: Internal ``` **** The rest of the system is 1T SSD drive with 500G SSD USB 3.0 for cache / extras.... The system was bought the end of 2019 with the hope of doing this kind of work since my 2009 Mac would nearly catch fire doing a cycles render. I have been having continuous problems in unexpected ways and wonder if it is even worth reporting here anymore as it obviously is not a supported system as no one else has these problems. Very disappointing indeed. I am not going back to MS after the constant crash problems with Vista. I wonder if any video card available for this system would work any differently with openGL not supported.....

Richard Antalik commented

2020-10-06 10:23:44 +02:00

Changed status from 'Needs User Info' to: 'Needs Triage'

Richard Antalik commented

2020-10-06 10:23:44 +02:00

I have no experience with mac HW so you would be better off looking/asking on forums. We are working on vulkan graphics engine that should work much better on mac, it takes time though.

But having said that your system is not unsupported technically. This may be a valid bug, but without similar HW I can't reproduce it unfortunately.

I have no experience with mac HW so you would be better off looking/asking on forums. We are working on vulkan graphics engine that should work much better on mac, it takes time though. But having said that your system is not unsupported technically. This may be a valid bug, but without similar HW I can't reproduce it unfortunately.

Philipp Oeser commented

2021-01-06 17:54:06 +01:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs User Info'

Philipp Oeser commented

2021-01-06 17:54:06 +01:00

Since quite a bit of time has passed (and there have been numerous fixes in this area):
@PaulM44 : could you check if this is still an issue for you? Please also try this with a fresh build from https://builder.blender.org/download/

Since quite a bit of time has passed (and there have been numerous fixes in this area): @PaulM44 : could you check if this is still an issue for you? Please also try this with a fresh build from https://builder.blender.org/download/

Paul Muns commented

2021-01-06 23:12:40 +01:00

USING: Blender-2.92.0-5424b4821d28-macOS (6 Jan 2021)

Subdivided default cube 3 times and clicked on Modeling tab. Selected a corner section and hit Shift-H. With selected corner section only showing, clicked on Sculpt tab. Clicked on Dyntopo square and changed Resolution to 11.7 and did some quick sculpting.

    Clicked Opt- H to see whole object in Sculpt and nothing happened.  Clicked Modeling Tab and Opt- H and brought back whole mesh.  Selected same approximate area again and Shift-H and back to Sculpt with section.  Dyntopo is no longer selected.  Each time I go in and out of Sculpt I need to turn Dyntopo on again.  This is unlike the other settings and going back and forth to make modifications and having to turn this on every time is confusing and costly if you forget to turn it on and try sculpting without it.  I don’t see why Dyntopo is not on by default for Sculpt instead of being off.

     Opt-H brings the rest of the mesh back into view in Sculpt and going back to Modeling still has the selection available to repeat if desired EXCEPT when Dyntopo is clicked on.  Then Opt-H has no effect.  The only way to see the rest of the mesh is to go back to Modeling and click OPT-H or go to Layout.

     Too bad the view isn’t the same when changing from Modeling to Sculpting at least initially for working back and forth.˙

DyntotoTest.blend

USING: Blender-2.92.0-5424b4821d28-macOS (6 Jan 2021) Subdivided default cube 3 times and clicked on Modeling tab. Selected a corner section and hit Shift-H. With selected corner section only showing, clicked on Sculpt tab. Clicked on Dyntopo square and changed Resolution to 11.7 and did some quick sculpting. ``` Clicked Opt- H to see whole object in Sculpt and nothing happened. Clicked Modeling Tab and Opt- H and brought back whole mesh. Selected same approximate area again and Shift-H and back to Sculpt with section. Dyntopo is no longer selected. Each time I go in and out of Sculpt I need to turn Dyntopo on again. This is unlike the other settings and going back and forth to make modifications and having to turn this on every time is confusing and costly if you forget to turn it on and try sculpting without it. I don’t see why Dyntopo is not on by default for Sculpt instead of being off. ``` ``` Opt-H brings the rest of the mesh back into view in Sculpt and going back to Modeling still has the selection available to repeat if desired EXCEPT when Dyntopo is clicked on. Then Opt-H has no effect. The only way to see the rest of the mesh is to go back to Modeling and click OPT-H or go to Layout. ``` ``` Too bad the view isn’t the same when changing from Modeling to Sculpting at least initially for working back and forth.˙ ``` ![Screen Shot 2021-01-06 at 2.06.19 PM.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F9553550/Screen_Shot_2021-01-06_at_2.06.19_PM.png) [DyntotoTest.blend](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F9553552/DyntotoTest.blend)

Philipp Oeser commented

2021-01-07 13:10:02 +01:00

Changed status from 'Needs User Info' to: 'Needs Triage'

Germano Cavalcante changed title from ~~Sculpt mode not showing (Shift-H) unhidden model~~ to Sculpt mode not revealing hidden part of the model if Dyntopo is enabled

2021-01-08 19:22:01 +01:00

Germano Cavalcante commented

2021-01-08 19:22:01 +01:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Confirmed'

Pablo Dobarro commented

2021-01-26 21:20:05 +01:00

Added subscriber: @PabloDobarro

Pablo Dobarro commented

2021-01-26 21:20:05 +01:00

Changed status from 'Confirmed' to: 'Archived'

Pablo Dobarro closed this issue

2021-01-26 21:20:05 +01:00

Pablo Dobarro commented

2021-01-26 21:20:05 +01:00

Alt + H and H in Sculpt Mode are Face Sets operators, which are not implemented for dyntopo. Dyntopo still uses the mesh flags for visibility state and does not take face sets into account (neither for visibility or for any other feature that uses face sets). In order to show the entire mesh, you should use the Sculpt -> Show All menu entry, which works as expected.

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Sculpt mode not revealing hidden part of the model if Dyntopo is enabled #81045