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Middle mouse button does not work when Tablet API = WIndows Ink #81604

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opened 2020-10-10 15:38:06 +02:00 by Daniel Bystedt · 10 comments
Daniel Bystedt commented 2020-10-10 15:38:06 +02:00
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Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.18362-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card: GeForce GTX 1080/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 442.59

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Broken: version: 2.91.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2020-10-09 21:39, hash: 7ab8d7c939
Worked: (newest version of Blender that worked as expected)

Short description of error
This issue only seem to happen with some wacom tablets. I am helping @PabloDobarro as commissioner for the Sculpt Mode Performance. I wanted to try the new smooth stroke functionality by turning on windows ink in preferences > input > tablet >Tablet API. After turning windows ink on in Blender and restarting Blender, i cannot use my middle mouse button. I thought viewport navigation was locked at first, but when I switch to keymap industry compatible I can navigate (but not pan, since that is using middle mouse. I can use middle mouse in the paint application Krita when windows ink is on. I have also verified that middle mouse button works by checking wacoms diagnostic window (middle mouse = switches 2).

A friend of mine tried and had no issues with windows ink inside of Blender. He was using a wacom intous 4.

I can't seem to find the task/revision for smooth sculpt strokes. Here the issue with jagged strokes is mentioned. I'll link it for some context
#81211 (Fast circular strokes by Paint and Sculpt brushes using mouse are angular.)

IMPORTANT:
If possible, I think that best solution would be to fix so that windows ink is not needed to use smooth strokes. All artists in the studios that I have worked on turns windows ink off in the wacom settings. Windows ink is in general a horrible experience. Marking text, scrolling web pages, white rings to mark clicks etc are some windows ink features that everyone wants to avoid.

Wacom device info
Wacom driver: 6.3.41-1 (latest version)
Device: Intous5 touch
Model: PTH-450
Version: 1.0.7.109
Pen: Pro Pen and Grip Pen

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error
[Please describe the exact steps needed to reproduce the issue]

  1. Make sure windows ink is activate in wacom driver settings
    image.png
  2. Open Blender and set preferences > input > tablet >Tablet API = Windows Ink (this will require restart to work)
  3. Close Blender.
  4. Open Blender
  5. Change to keymap Blender if that is not your default keymap
  6. Try to navigate or scroll the preferences with middle mouse

[Based on the default startup or an attached .blend file (as simple as possible)]

**System Information** Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.18362-SP0 64 Bits Graphics card: GeForce GTX 1080/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 442.59 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 2.91.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2020-10-09 21:39, hash: `7ab8d7c939` Worked: (newest version of Blender that worked as expected) **Short description of error** This issue only seem to happen with some wacom tablets. I am helping @PabloDobarro as commissioner for the Sculpt Mode Performance. I wanted to try the new smooth stroke functionality by turning on **windows ink** in **preferences > input > tablet >Tablet API**. After turning windows ink on in Blender and restarting Blender, i cannot use my middle mouse button. I thought viewport navigation was locked at first, but when I switch to keymap **industry compatible** I can navigate (but not pan, since that is using middle mouse. I can use middle mouse in the paint application Krita when windows ink is on. I have also verified that middle mouse button works by checking wacoms diagnostic window (middle mouse = switches 2). A friend of mine tried and had no issues with windows ink inside of Blender. He was using a wacom intous 4. I can't seem to find the task/revision for smooth sculpt strokes. Here the issue with jagged strokes is mentioned. I'll link it for some context #81211 (Fast circular strokes by Paint and Sculpt brushes using mouse are angular.) IMPORTANT: If possible, I think that best solution would be to fix so that windows ink is not needed to use smooth strokes. All artists in the studios that I have worked on turns windows ink off in the wacom settings. Windows ink is in general a horrible experience. Marking text, scrolling web pages, white rings to mark clicks etc are some windows ink features that everyone wants to avoid. **Wacom device info** Wacom driver: 6.3.41-1 (latest version) Device: Intous5 touch Model: PTH-450 Version: 1.0.7.109 Pen: Pro Pen and Grip Pen **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** [Please describe the exact steps needed to reproduce the issue] 1. Make sure windows ink is activate in wacom driver settings ![image.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F8974772/image.png) 2. Open Blender and set preferences > input > tablet >Tablet API = Windows Ink (this will require restart to work) 3. Close Blender. 4. Open Blender 5. Change to keymap **Blender** if that is not your default keymap 6. Try to navigate or scroll the preferences with middle mouse [Based on the default startup or an attached .blend file (as simple as possible)]
Daniel Bystedt commented 2020-10-10 15:38:07 +02:00
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Added subscribers: @PabloDobarro, @DanielBystedt

Added subscribers: @PabloDobarro, @DanielBystedt
Evan Wilson commented 2020-10-10 16:49:08 +02:00
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Added subscribers: @PrototypeNM1, @EAW

Added subscribers: @PrototypeNM1, @EAW
Evan Wilson commented 2020-10-10 16:49:08 +02:00
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@PrototypeNM1 tagging you since you know the most about this area of the code iIrc.

@PrototypeNM1 tagging you since you know the most about this area of the code iIrc.
Nicholas Rishel self-assigned this 2020-10-19 03:40:21 +02:00
Nicholas Rishel commented 2020-10-19 03:40:21 +02:00
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Couple questions to make sure I understand the problem:

  • Where is the middle mouse button: on the pen, the tablet pad, or another device (if another device please specify which)?
  • Is the behavior that middle mouse doesn't do anything or it does the wrong thing (e.g. it's left clicking)?
Couple questions to make sure I understand the problem: - Where is the middle mouse button: on the pen, the tablet pad, or another device (if another device please specify which)? - Is the behavior that middle mouse doesn't do anything or it does the wrong thing (e.g. it's left clicking)?
Daniel Bystedt commented 2020-10-28 23:37:24 +01:00
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Where is the middle mouse button: on the pen, the tablet pad, or another device (if another device please specify which)?

The middle mouse button is on the pen. If I switch to using my mouse, I can navigate as usual
image.png

Is the behavior that middle mouse doesn't do anything or it does the wrong thing (e.g. it's left clicking)?

The middle mouse button does not appear to respond in any way when Blender is the active window. I can switch to Krita and the middle mouse button works as expected

> Where is the middle mouse button: on the pen, the tablet pad, or another device (if another device please specify which)? The middle mouse button is on the pen. If I switch to using my mouse, I can navigate as usual ![image.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F9119436/image.png) > Is the behavior that middle mouse doesn't do anything or it does the wrong thing (e.g. it's left clicking)? The middle mouse button does not appear to respond in any way when Blender is the active window. I can switch to Krita and the middle mouse button works as expected
Nicholas Rishel commented 2020-10-28 23:56:22 +01:00
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Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs User Info'

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs User Info'
Nicholas Rishel commented 2020-10-28 23:56:22 +01:00
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Can you recreate the issue in this build ?

Can you recreate the issue in [this build ](https://blender.community/c/graphicall/Wlbbbc/)?
Daniel Bystedt commented 2020-10-29 03:09:52 +01:00
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Changed status from 'Needs User Info' to: 'Resolved'

Changed status from 'Needs User Info' to: 'Resolved'
Daniel Bystedt commented 2020-10-29 03:09:52 +01:00
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Amazing! When using the build that you provided I did not have the issues with navigation OR jagged brush strokes when sculpting.

to be concrete:

  • Using windows Ink input works as expected. Smooth strokes when drawing fast on dense surface with multires modifier. I can also navigate in the viewport without issues

  • Using Wintabinput works as expected. Smooth strokes when drawing fast on dense surface with multires modifier. I can also navigate in the viewport without issues. As a comparison, I can't get these smooth strokes on my local build of windows from 2020-10-28

Well done! I'm setting this task as resolved

Amazing! When using [the build ](https://blender.community/c/graphicall/Wlbbbc/) that you provided I did not have the issues with navigation OR jagged brush strokes when sculpting. to be concrete: - Using **windows Ink** input works as expected. Smooth strokes when drawing fast on dense surface with multires modifier. I can also navigate in the viewport without issues - Using **Wintab**input works as expected. Smooth strokes when drawing fast on dense surface with multires modifier. I can also navigate in the viewport without issues. As a comparison, I can't get these smooth strokes on my local build of windows from 2020-10-28 Well done! I'm setting this task as resolved
Nicholas Rishel commented 2020-10-29 03:29:16 +01:00
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Glad to hear. The change hasn't been merged yet but expect the fix in nightly in the near-ish future.

Glad to hear. The change hasn't been merged yet but expect the fix in nightly in the near-ish future.
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