Edit Voxel Size sculpt operator can not be accessed though user interface #89922

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Ludvik Koutny · 2021-07-17T17:10:37+02:00

Ludvik Koutny commented

2021-07-17 17:10:37 +02:00

System Information
Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.19041-SP0 64 Bits
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 466.27

Blender Version
Broken: version: 3.0.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2021-07-05 22:24, hash: 4eeec6e9b5
Worked: (newest version of Blender that worked as expected)

Short description of error
object.voxel_size_edit operator can not be accessed through the user interface. Only way to access it is to have it mapped to some hotkey. This goes against Blender convention established from 2.8 onwards where any function should be possible to find somewhere in the user interface menu.

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error

Attempt to use Edit Voxel Size feature in sculpt mode without it being mapped to a hotkey (Default hotkey is Shift+R)
Result: Edit Voxel Size can not be used if it's not mapped to a hotkey, and there is no indication anywhere in the user interface that this feature exists.
Expected: Edit Voxel Size can be discovered though the user interface and can be used without a hotkey.

**System Information** Operating system: Windows-10-10.0.19041-SP0 64 Bits Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti/PCIe/SSE2 NVIDIA Corporation 4.5.0 NVIDIA 466.27 **Blender Version** Broken: version: 3.0.0 Alpha, branch: master, commit date: 2021-07-05 22:24, hash: `4eeec6e9b5` Worked: (newest version of Blender that worked as expected) Short description of error object.voxel_size_edit operator can not be accessed through the user interface. Only way to access it is to have it mapped to some hotkey. This goes against Blender convention established from 2.8 onwards where any function should be possible to find somewhere in the user interface menu. Exact steps for others to reproduce the error Attempt to use Edit Voxel Size feature in sculpt mode without it being mapped to a hotkey (Default hotkey is Shift+R) Result: Edit Voxel Size can not be used if it's not mapped to a hotkey, and there is no indication anywhere in the user interface that this feature exists. Expected: Edit Voxel Size can be discovered though the user interface and can be used without a hotkey.

Ludvik Koutny commented

2021-07-17 17:10:37 +02:00

Added subscriber: @Rawalanche

blender-admin commented

2021-07-17 17:10:37 +02:00

#89921 was marked as duplicate of this issue

TheRedWaxPolice commented

2021-07-18 04:32:15 +02:00

Added subscriber: @TheRedWaxPolice

TheRedWaxPolice commented

2021-07-18 04:32:15 +02:00

You mean that modal widget?

I'm confuse... cuz you can still access the voxel size in the "Object Data" tab -> Remesh... (even the Quadriflow stuff from your other report.. )

You mean that modal widget? I'm confuse... cuz you can still access the voxel size in the "Object Data" tab -> Remesh... (even the Quadriflow stuff from your [other report.. ](https://developer.blender.org/T89921)) ![voxel quad.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F10226926/voxel_quad.png)

Ludvik Koutny commented

2021-07-18 09:34:41 +02:00

In #89922#1192593, @TheRedWaxPolice wrote:
You mean that modal widget?

I'm confuse... cuz you can still access the voxel size in the "Object Data" tab -> Remesh... (even the Quadriflow stuff from your other report.. )

I mean this interactive one:

This one is currently hardcoded to the default keymap, and does not exist in the UI.

> In #89922#1192593, @TheRedWaxPolice wrote: > You mean that modal widget? > > I'm confuse... cuz you can still access the voxel size in the "Object Data" tab -> Remesh... (even the Quadriflow stuff from your [other report.. ](https://developer.blender.org/T89921)) > > ![voxel quad.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F10226926/voxel_quad.png) I mean this interactive one: ![image.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F10227070/image.png) This one is currently hardcoded to the default keymap, and does not exist in the UI.

TheRedWaxPolice commented

2021-07-19 04:05:01 +02:00

In #89922#1192632, @Rawalanche wrote:
I mean this interactive one:

This one is currently hardcoded to the default keymap, and does not exist in the UI.

Yeah, but if you think about it... this interactive widget is very similar to those other ones like for example when you press "F" to adjust the brush radius, so it kinda doesn't make sense to have a button or something else in the UI to call it... imho...

> In #89922#1192632, @Rawalanche wrote: > I mean this interactive one: > ![image.png](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F10227070/image.png) > This one is currently hardcoded to the default keymap, and does not exist in the UI. Yeah, but if you think about it... this interactive widget is very similar to those other ones like for example when you press "F" to adjust the brush radius, so it kinda doesn't make sense to have a button or something else in the UI to call it... imho...

Pratik Borhade commented

2021-07-19 05:34:40 +02:00

Added subscriber: @PratikPB2123

Philipp Oeser commented

2021-07-19 10:56:37 +02:00

Added subscriber: @lichtwerk

Philipp Oeser commented

2021-07-19 10:56:37 +02:00

Changed status from 'Needs Triage' to: 'Needs Developer To Reproduce'

Philipp Oeser commented

2021-07-19 10:56:37 +02:00

There are many "convenience" operators that can set/adjust settings in an (additional) way to the (already exposed) raw setting.
I would tend to not have this covered by the convention that all operators need to be accessible via menus.

But to be 100% sure, I would like the module (User Interface) decission here.

There are many "convenience" operators that can set/adjust settings in an (additional) way to the (already exposed) raw setting. I would tend to not have this covered by the convention that all operators need to be accessible via menus. But to be 100% sure, I would like the module (`User Interface`) decission here.

Pablo Dobarro commented

2021-07-19 17:01:00 +02:00

Added subscriber: @PabloDobarro

Pablo Dobarro commented

2021-07-19 17:01:00 +02:00

I also don't think this should be exposed in a menu. This is a similar case as the WM operator for changing the radius and strength of the brush with the F key, which is also not exposed in menus.

ThinkingPolygons commented

2021-07-20 04:36:54 +02:00

Added subscriber: @ThinkingPolygons

ThinkingPolygons commented

2021-07-20 04:36:54 +02:00

In #89922#1192848, @TheRedWaxPolice wrote:
this interactive widget is very similar to those other ones like for example when you press "F" to adjust the brush radius, so it kinda doesn't make sense to have a button or something else in the UI to call it... imho...

Exactly!

> In #89922#1192848, @TheRedWaxPolice wrote: > this interactive widget is very similar to those other ones like for example when you press "F" to adjust the brush radius, so it kinda doesn't make sense to have a button or something else in the UI to call it... imho... Exactly!

Philipp Oeser commented

2021-07-24 17:17:46 +02:00

Changed status from 'Needs Developer To Reproduce' to: 'Archived'

Philipp Oeser closed this issue

2021-07-24 17:17:46 +02:00

Philipp Oeser commented

2021-07-24 17:17:46 +02:00

I think this should be closed then.

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Edit Voxel Size sculpt operator can not be accessed though user interface #89922