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This project is to manage Blender File repository.

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Wed, May 11

Bastien Montagne (mont29) closed T97954: Pose missing when relative path library override is changed and relinked on some characters as Archived.

Unfortunately there is no bug here, there is simply no way to preserve this information in that case. What happens is this:

Wed, May 11, 3:45 PM · Overrides, Core, Blender File
Bastien Montagne (mont29) edited projects for T97954: Pose missing when relative path library override is changed and relinked on some characters, added: Core, Overrides; removed Pipeline, Assets & I/O, Asset Browser.
Wed, May 11, 9:43 AM · Overrides, Core, Blender File

Sun, May 8

Hannah Ümit (Koterminion) added a comment to T97954: Pose missing when relative path library override is changed and relinked on some characters.

These values disappear once I relink the model. The difference between this model and another model that does retain it's pose is that the model that loses the information is inside a collection. The other one is not.

Sun, May 8, 11:08 AM · Overrides, Core, Blender File
Hannah Ümit (Koterminion) edited projects for T97954: Pose missing when relative path library override is changed and relinked on some characters, added: Blender File, Asset Browser, Pipeline, Assets & I/O; removed Add-ons (Community).
Sun, May 8, 10:46 AM · Overrides, Core, Blender File

Thu, Apr 21

Luke Stilson (sharpened) added a comment to T94805: Library weak reference generates "path not found" errors when appending.

@Bastien Montagne (mont29) 's commit fixes "path not found" reports for

bpy.ops.file.report_missing_files()

however I am running into a related issue reporting console warnings if I run

bpy.ops.file.make_paths_relative()
Thu, Apr 21, 6:18 PM · Blender File, Core, BF Blender

Apr 11 2022

Bastien Montagne (mont29) closed T97216: Appending of any data adds a link to the file as well as Archived.

This has always been the case, the 'library' ID is created the first time you link/append something from a given .blend file, and stays around at least for the editing session (should disappear after save/reload, if you only appended data). Nothing wrong here, this is how it is supposed to work.

Apr 11 2022, 6:34 PM · Core, Blender File, BF Blender
Germano Cavalcante (mano-wii) changed the status of T97216: Appending of any data adds a link to the file as well from Needs Triage to Needs Information from Developers.

Keeping the file directory of an appended object is useful to allow re-using already appended data, instead of appending it again.
But I'm not sure if that directory should appear between the items in the "Blender File" outliner.
@Bastien Montagne (mont29), do you know if this is expected?

Apr 11 2022, 4:22 PM · Core, Blender File, BF Blender

Feb 24 2022

Tyler Walker (tyler.tofu) closed T96005: [CRASH] Custom Property Animation Crashes Blender as Resolved.
Feb 24 2022, 2:36 AM · Modifiers, Blender File, Animation & Rigging
Tyler Walker (tyler.tofu) added a comment to T96005: [CRASH] Custom Property Animation Crashes Blender.

The Wiggle Bones Addon causes this crash.

Feb 24 2022, 2:35 AM · Modifiers, Blender File, Animation & Rigging
Tyler Walker (tyler.tofu) added a comment to T96005: [CRASH] Custom Property Animation Crashes Blender.

This crash does not occur when I've disabled all addons and start in factory settings. Trying to disable addons one at a time

Feb 24 2022, 2:34 AM · Modifiers, Blender File, Animation & Rigging
Tyler Walker (tyler.tofu) added a comment to T96005: [CRASH] Custom Property Animation Crashes Blender.

Below is a log from the crash on my machine.

Feb 24 2022, 2:07 AM · Modifiers, Blender File, Animation & Rigging
Tyler Walker (tyler.tofu) created T96005: [CRASH] Custom Property Animation Crashes Blender.
Feb 24 2022, 1:59 AM · Modifiers, Blender File, Animation & Rigging

Jan 17 2022

Bastien Montagne (mont29) closed T94805: Library weak reference generates "path not found" errors when appending as Resolved by committing rB08822801acf6: Fix T94805: Library weak reference generates "path not found" reports..
Jan 17 2022, 2:23 PM · Blender File, Core, BF Blender
Bastien Montagne (mont29) added a comment to T94805: Library weak reference generates "path not found" errors when appending.

Not sure this would be much useful to be honest, this info is supposed to fully internal currently, and invisible for the user...

Jan 17 2022, 1:41 PM · Blender File, Core, BF Blender

Jan 14 2022

Mustard (Mustard) added a comment to T94805: Library weak reference generates "path not found" errors when appending.

Thank you for your answer (and your work in general)!

Jan 14 2022, 10:28 PM · Blender File, Core, BF Blender
Bastien Montagne (mont29) claimed T94805: Library weak reference generates "path not found" errors when appending.

It's saved in file to allow re-using same data on future append, even across editing sessions.

Jan 14 2022, 5:13 PM · Blender File, Core, BF Blender
Germano Cavalcante (mano-wii) updated the task description for T94805: Library weak reference generates "path not found" errors when appending.
Jan 14 2022, 3:33 PM · Blender File, Core, BF Blender
Germano Cavalcante (mano-wii) changed the status of T94805: Library weak reference generates "path not found" errors when appending from Needs Triage to Needs Information from Developers.

I can confirm the problem.
The value in id->library_weak_reference->library_filepath of "MECube.001" points to a path that no longer exists.
But I'm not sure if this is a bug. This value seems to be a utility "to allow re-using already appended data in some cases, instead of appending it again".

Jan 14 2022, 3:30 PM · Blender File, Core, BF Blender

Dec 9 2021

Raimund Klink (Raimund58) added a comment to T93858: Zstd-compressed .blend files from external tools aren't recognized.

Lol, there he comes out of nowhere and just fixes things :D

Dec 9 2021, 7:18 AM · Blender File, Core, BF Blender

Dec 8 2021

Lukas Stockner (lukasstockner97) closed T93858: Zstd-compressed .blend files from external tools aren't recognized as Resolved by committing rBbe2213472f82: Fix T93858: Zstd-compressed .blend files from external tools aren't recognized.
Dec 8 2021, 11:42 PM · Blender File, Core, BF Blender
Lukas Stockner (lukasstockner97) renamed T93858: Zstd-compressed .blend files from external tools aren't recognized from Blender is not opening a .blend that was compressed via zstd to Zstd-compressed .blend files from external tools aren't recognized.
Dec 8 2021, 11:38 PM · Blender File, Core, BF Blender
Lukas Stockner (lukasstockner97) claimed T93858: Zstd-compressed .blend files from external tools aren't recognized.

Lukas is currently not active. I'm not sure if it is a good idea to assign it to him.

I did actually see this one, I'll have a look :)

Dec 8 2021, 11:05 PM · Blender File, Core, BF Blender
Philipp Oeser (lichtwerk) added a comment to T93858: Zstd-compressed .blend files from external tools aren't recognized.

If you compress outside of blender, the header is not kept (needs to start with "BLENDER") and this is what fails in a couple of places.

Dec 8 2021, 3:54 PM · Blender File, Core, BF Blender
Raimund Klink (Raimund58) placed T93858: Zstd-compressed .blend files from external tools aren't recognized up for grabs.

Lukas is currently not active. I'm not sure if it is a good idea to assign it to him.

Dec 8 2021, 3:22 PM · Blender File, Core, BF Blender
Grische (Grische) assigned T93858: Zstd-compressed .blend files from external tools aren't recognized to Lukas Stockner (lukasstockner97).
Dec 8 2021, 3:15 PM · Blender File, Core, BF Blender
Philipp Oeser (lichtwerk) updated the task description for T93858: Zstd-compressed .blend files from external tools aren't recognized.
Dec 8 2021, 2:51 PM · Blender File, Core, BF Blender
Philipp Oeser (lichtwerk) changed the status of T93858: Zstd-compressed .blend files from external tools aren't recognized from Needs Triage to Confirmed.
Dec 8 2021, 2:50 PM · Blender File, Core, BF Blender

Sep 7 2021

Falk David (filedescriptor) added projects to T91243: Object modes are not loaded correctly in inactive scenes: Blender File, Core.
Sep 7 2021, 5:11 PM · Core, BF Blender

Aug 30 2021

spam (CharlesHyde2) added a comment to T88294: Appending from remotely saved Blender files has massive loading issues.
Aug 30 2021, 9:35 AM · Blender File, BF Blender
spam (CharlesHyde2) added a watcher for Blender File: spam (CharlesHyde2).
Aug 30 2021, 9:31 AM

Aug 12 2021

Ondrej Martinek (MirekDusin) added a comment to T88294: Appending from remotely saved Blender files has massive loading issues.

Have you tried comparing with an older Blender version like 2.83? A version before memory-mapped files were used for reading .blend files.

I know that in some Windows versions, accessing memory-mapped files on a network drive bypasses the cache manager regardless of what you do. If that's still the case, it could make sense to use file streams when we know the file is on a network drive.

EDIT: though I guess compressed files don't use memory-mapped access, so maybe that's not the issue. Still could be worth checking older Blender versions to see if was better at some point.

Aug 12 2021, 10:15 AM · Blender File, BF Blender

Aug 3 2021

Brecht Van Lommel (brecht) added a comment to T88294: Appending from remotely saved Blender files has massive loading issues.

Have you tried comparing with an older Blender version like 2.83? A version before memory-mapped files were used for reading .blend files.

Aug 3 2021, 7:07 PM · Blender File, BF Blender
Harley Acheson (harley) added a comment to T88294: Appending from remotely saved Blender files has massive loading issues.

This would actually make me guess that the changes in this patch won't help you as the difference in that 11 to 34 seconds is fairly close to the difference in file download size. When compressed it is just downloading the entire thing in one go, while when not it is using those memory-mapped files. It was the latter I was worried about the efficiency on slow connections with high latency, but this seems to show that there isn't much to improve there.

Aug 3 2021, 6:28 PM · Blender File, BF Blender
Ondrej Martinek (MirekDusin) added a comment to T88294: Appending from remotely saved Blender files has massive loading issues.

Hey, just tested the timing, it helped a bit. I was testing it on a file that was 22 MB uncompressed and then 5 MB compressed. Loading the basic folder took 34 seconds when loading the uncompressed and 11 when compressed. When loading the folder with objects it took 2:12 to load for uncompressed and 1:45 to compressed. So there is a difference, but it is not that significant in sense of usability.

Aug 3 2021, 5:59 PM · Blender File, BF Blender

Aug 2 2021

Harley Acheson (harley) added a comment to T88294: Appending from remotely saved Blender files has massive loading issues.

@Ondrej Martinek (MirekDusin) - but the result is the same. When browsing through hierarchy the file is still loading every time.

Aug 2 2021, 4:40 PM · Blender File, BF Blender
Ondrej Martinek (MirekDusin) added a comment to T88294: Appending from remotely saved Blender files has massive loading issues.

@Ondrej Martinek (MirekDusin) - Still waiting for you to test.

Aug 2 2021, 4:11 PM · Blender File, BF Blender

Jul 27 2021

Honia Ibrahim (HoniaPonia) claimed T90238: SOMETIMES Saved Blender File Opened As An Error 2.9.
Jul 27 2021, 2:22 PM · BF Blender

Jul 14 2021

Harley Acheson (harley) added a comment to T88294: Appending from remotely saved Blender files has massive loading issues.

@Ondrej Martinek (MirekDusin) - Still waiting for you to test.

Jul 14 2021, 8:58 PM · Blender File, BF Blender

Jun 12 2021

Harley Acheson (harley) added a comment to T88294: Appending from remotely saved Blender files has massive loading issues.

One other thing that you could test that does not require compiling blender or making any changes....

Jun 12 2021, 7:06 PM · Blender File, BF Blender

Jun 8 2021

Harley Acheson (harley) added a comment to T88294: Appending from remotely saved Blender files has massive loading issues.

@Ondrej Martinek (MirekDusin) - ....I can check how to build Blender from source.

Jun 8 2021, 5:05 PM · Blender File, BF Blender
Ondrej Martinek (MirekDusin) added a comment to T88294: Appending from remotely saved Blender files has massive loading issues.

Hey, sorry for the radio silence. We can help with our art team to test the possible solution. I can check how to build Blender from source.

Jun 8 2021, 10:48 AM · Blender File, BF Blender

Jun 4 2021

Harley Acheson (harley) added a comment to T88294: Appending from remotely saved Blender files has massive loading issues.

@Leon Zandman (lzandman) - ...accesses files using random access...a piece at the end, then some middle part, etc.

Jun 4 2021, 12:09 AM · Blender File, BF Blender

Jun 3 2021

Leon Zandman (lzandman) added a comment to T88294: Appending from remotely saved Blender files has massive loading issues.

Sorry but you seem to not understand the problem. What you describe is expected but how it actually behave is not expected. We were testing it today and Blender file we were trying to append from with a size of 22 MB froze the app. This should not be happening. If I would download a file that is 22 MB of size to some local storage, it would take seconds, instead Blender is usually taking minutes and that is only if you are lucky and it doesn't freeze the app.

The network connection speed doesn't seem to be the problem here. However, there might be a difference in the way the files are accessed. When you copy a file from a network location using Windows Explorer or the macOS Finder it just treats the file as a large BLOB and reads the files in one or more chunks sequentially.

Jun 3 2021, 8:33 PM · Blender File, BF Blender

May 29 2021

Harley Acheson (harley) added a comment to T88294: Appending from remotely saved Blender files has massive loading issues.

Just to back up a bit. I'm not doubting that you are seeing this behavior. And not arguing that it is acceptable behavior either; it sounds unbearable. And also not saying that changes aren't possible that could improve things, new approaches could be used, or even that a "blender resource server service" couldn't be created and run on your hosting server.

May 29 2021, 6:33 PM · Blender File, BF Blender
Ondrej Martinek (MirekDusin) added a comment to T88294: Appending from remotely saved Blender files has massive loading issues.

Sry, I might have not made myself clear when talking about freezing. By freeze I mean the app stops responding and need to be force quit. So basically it is impossible to append remotely anything from a file of not even that significant size. This is the major issue here, not that I need to wait. I understand that there will always be some delay as long as there is no indexing. Even still the waiting is not really proportionate to the speed of my connection. I can easily download file of size around 20 MB within few seconds, even if Blender would download the file every time I move in the file's hierarchy, it shouldn't take minutes.

May 29 2021, 12:46 PM · Blender File, BF Blender

May 28 2021

Harley Acheson (harley) added a comment to T88294: Appending from remotely saved Blender files has massive loading issues.

I do understand the problem. I'm saying that for "Appending" the slow speeds you are experiencing are caused by the download speeds of your clients, which you say is "least 20 Mbps download." That speed sounds like wifi 802.11g. You can get faster with newer wifi. And even faster if you use a wired connection to the router instead. I get download speeds of about 350 Mbps. We would see an almost identical performance while viewing file system folders (not in thumbnail view) but while Appending mine would work 17X better.

May 28 2021, 10:49 PM · Blender File, BF Blender
Ondrej Martinek (MirekDusin) added a comment to T88294: Appending from remotely saved Blender files has massive loading issues.

Sorry but you seem to not understand the problem. What you describe is expected but how it actually behave is not expected. We were testing it today and Blender file we were trying to append from with a size of 22 MB froze the app. This should not be happening. If I would download a file that is 22 MB of size to some local storage, it would take seconds, instead Blender is usually taking minutes and that is only if you are lucky and it doesn't freeze the app. This is really an issue if you are working with group of people that are not sharing one office with local storage. If Blender should ever get to be used as a professional tool in larger studios, then those things need to be fixed. I am not sure if this is a bug or just limitation of current Blender and should be added as a new feature in the future using some sort of indexing, but this needs to be tackled.

May 28 2021, 10:20 PM · Blender File, BF Blender
Harley Acheson (harley) added a comment to T88294: Appending from remotely saved Blender files has massive loading issues.

@Ondrej Martinek (MirekDusin) - ....remote drive is...over the internet...the parties connecting to it have at least 20 Mbps download / upload. Browsing through regular files is pretty fast, happen almost instantly, the problem occurs when one is browsing through the blender file hierarchy.

May 28 2021, 6:13 PM · Blender File, BF Blender
Philipp Oeser (lichtwerk) changed the status of T88294: Appending from remotely saved Blender files has massive loading issues from Needs Information from User to Needs Triage.
May 28 2021, 9:41 AM · Blender File, BF Blender

May 18 2021

Ondrej Martinek (MirekDusin) added a comment to T88294: Appending from remotely saved Blender files has massive loading issues.

Could you provide more information about your setup? A blender file can be "remotely on a network drive" in many different ways. Is your computer and the network drive on the same physical network and single location? Are you connected to it with network cabling or though wifi? How fast of a connection?

You mention that the "only solution right now is to download the file offline". Generally we only talk about files being online or offline when using a cloud-based service (file sharing over the internet). Is that how you share files? Or do you mean just copying the file to a drive that is on your computer?

May 18 2021, 2:09 PM · Blender File, BF Blender