United Key Config #38807

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wueo · 2014-02-24T13:51:32+01:00

wueo commented

2014-02-24 13:51:32 +01:00

Hi i recently deleted blender themes and wanted have blender default themes back. i did File > Load Factory Settings. then i click on Save User Settings in Blender User Preferences Screen. my whole Key Config was deleted!T_T.
i new to blender. but every time i installed new blender version my key Config preset was buged. the whole key config need be patched. in maya key config presets are different shortcuts and names too like:

( maya ) key config preset) > 3D View > 3D View (Global) > Select or Deselect All > view3d.select_or_deselect_all
( blender ) key config preset) > 3D View > 3D View (Global) > Activate/Select > view3d.select
both have same funktion.?
it took me many hours again to customize my best key config...T_T

here some example:

so i changed Blenders default key preset to my custom. then i imported the ( view3d.select ) shortcut command from maya to blenders default keys. becouse after change to LMB for select objects in blenders default keys didnt deselect if press on emtpy space. after import from maya, it did work.

my 3D View Shortcuts are:

Select or Deselect All > Left Mouse
Border Select > Left mouse
Rotate View > ALT Left Mouse
Move View > ALT Middle Mouse
Zoom View > ALT Right Mouse
Translate > Right Mouse
Set 3D Cursor > Middle Mouse

In Dope sheet, Graph Editor, Timeline windows i wanted have similar keys like in 3D View
After hour of search i found ( Change Frame ) anim.change_frame > Action Mouse shortcut in Animation categorie shortcuts and not in dopesheet?
after i changed to Middle Mouse. everytime i move it toggle and i need to click again to set. blender default just need to click Right Mouse and drag right / left to move keyframas

i mean thats only some examples . there are super other many like everytime i change from my customized blender default keys to other and back , it dissable my shortcuts and need to activate again even i saved and relaunched blender.

I love blender but the key shortcuts are terrible. like most ununderstandable for me is how could someone thing is good to mode objects with G and select border with B ? its complete CHAOS now. is not Logical/comfortable at all.

imagine how would feel learning blender first time by not understand how to setup shortcuts. thats how terrible was for me. it took me days to comprehend all the windows shortcuts and what they do.. like in "dope sheet" window bugs...

so here is my short list what should realy be changed:

File > Load Factiory Settings < make preset button for ( all ) options in User Preference window configurations. like the key config or themes so if someone want load factory seetings they would not lose the options...
User Preferences > example: addons, themes, Input. make ask window pop up if they realy want to overwrite the settings.
User Preferences > Input > Import Key config. it never worked for me correctly .it was always conficts or not even half buttons worked becouse of need change buttons in blender keys to able to use in maya keys... O_O
User Preferences > Key Config. if realy blender want have so many even Useless keys like 3D View > 3D View Global > View Pan , View Orbit with Shift + wheel up / down. ?????
make option to click on advanced keys. to see them if someone need them. just delete keys that realy no1 need them, keep simple and comfortable / logical for new people.
In every screen there are buttons where you can click RMB and change shortcuts. why not on all clickable things? like proportional editing . cant change shortcut fast. need search for hours in input window.
Key config. Unify all names and all funktions for every preset like Maya , Blender. 3D max, etc. in combination with 4. it woulkd be super for new people to understand it.

Its realy time to change the keys & interface logic... Just imagine yourself you are new to any 3D modeling software !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PLEASE :)

Hi i recently deleted blender themes and wanted have blender default themes back. i did File > Load Factory Settings. then i click on Save User Settings in Blender User Preferences Screen. my whole Key Config was deleted!T_T. i new to blender. but every time i installed new blender version my key Config preset was buged. the whole key config need be patched. in maya key config presets are different shortcuts and names too like: ( maya ) key config preset) > 3D View > 3D View (Global) > Select or Deselect All > view3d.select_or_deselect_all ( blender ) key config preset) > 3D View > 3D View (Global) > Activate/Select > view3d.select both have same funktion.? it took me many hours again to customize my best key config...T_T here some example: so i changed Blenders default key preset to my custom. then i imported the ( view3d.select ) shortcut command from maya to blenders default keys. becouse after change to LMB for select objects in blenders default keys didnt deselect if press on emtpy space. after import from maya, it did work. my 3D View Shortcuts are: Select or Deselect All > Left Mouse Border Select > Left mouse Rotate View > ALT Left Mouse Move View > ALT Middle Mouse Zoom View > ALT Right Mouse Translate > Right Mouse Set 3D Cursor > Middle Mouse In Dope sheet, Graph Editor, Timeline windows i wanted have similar keys like in 3D View After hour of search i found ( Change Frame ) anim.change_frame > Action Mouse shortcut in Animation categorie shortcuts and not in dopesheet? after i changed to Middle Mouse. everytime i move it toggle and i need to click again to set. blender default just need to click Right Mouse and drag right / left to move keyframas i mean thats only some examples . there are super other many like everytime i change from my customized blender default keys to other and back , it dissable my shortcuts and need to activate again even i saved and relaunched blender. I love blender but the key shortcuts are terrible. like most ununderstandable for me is how could someone thing is good to mode objects with G and select border with B ? its complete CHAOS now. is not Logical/comfortable at all. imagine how would feel learning blender first time by not understand how to setup shortcuts. thats how terrible was for me. it took me days to comprehend all the windows shortcuts and what they do.. like in "dope sheet" window bugs... so here is my short list what should realy be changed: 1. File > Load Factiory Settings < make preset button for ( all ) options in User Preference window configurations. like the key config or themes so if someone want load factory seetings they would not lose the options... 2. User Preferences > example: addons, themes, Input. make ask window pop up if they realy want to overwrite the settings. 3. User Preferences > Input > Import Key config. it never worked for me correctly .it was always conficts or not even half buttons worked becouse of need change buttons in blender keys to able to use in maya keys... O_O 4. User Preferences > Key Config. if realy blender want have so many even Useless keys like 3D View > 3D View Global > View Pan , View Orbit with Shift + wheel up / down. ????? make option to click on advanced keys. to see them if someone need them. just delete keys that realy no1 need them, keep simple and comfortable / logical for new people. 5. In every screen there are buttons where you can click RMB and change shortcuts. why not on all clickable things? like proportional editing . cant change shortcut fast. need search for hours in input window. 6. Key config. Unify all names and all funktions for every preset like Maya , Blender. 3D max, etc. in combination with 4. it woulkd be super for new people to understand it. Its realy time to change the keys & interface logic... Just imagine yourself you are new to any 3D modeling software !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE :)

wueo commented

2014-02-24 13:51:32 +01:00

Changed status to: 'Open'

wueo commented

2014-02-24 13:51:32 +01:00

Added subscriber: @mushroomeo

Brecht Van Lommel commented

2014-02-24 14:45:49 +01:00

Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Archived'

Brecht Van Lommel closed this issue

2014-02-24 14:45:49 +01:00

Brecht Van Lommel self-assigned this 2014-02-24 14:45:49 +01:00

Brecht Van Lommel commented

2014-02-24 14:45:49 +01:00

This is not the right place to post such proposal, on the Add To Do Task page there is this message:

To Do tasks are created by developers and module members to track To Do items that are not bugs, patches or design. They are not intended to be created by users, rather the focus is always on tasks that developers themselves plan to work on or ask others to help out with.

You can make proposals in the wiki, see here for more information on the process:
https://developer.blender.org/project/view/12/

This is not the right place to post such proposal, on the Add To Do Task page there is this message: > To Do tasks are created by developers and module members to track To Do items that are not bugs, patches or design. They are not intended to be created by users, rather the focus is always on tasks that developers themselves plan to work on or ask others to help out with. You can make proposals in the wiki, see here for more information on the process: https://developer.blender.org/project/view/12/

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United Key Config #38807