Outliner object focus fails for parented objects #41195

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Maverick · 2014-07-26T17:21:35+02:00

Maverick commented

2014-07-26 17:21:35 +02:00

System Information
all

Blender Version
blender-2.71-f37ec65-win64-vc9

Short description of error
Pressing the Numpad dot key focuses the currently selected object in the Outliner.
However if the object has a parent (or even deeper in a parent-tree) the Outliner fails to focus.
Sometimes it scrolls to the parent sometimes it completely fails.

Expected behavior is to open all parents until it finds the actual object and focus on it.
This is very frequently used when objects are grouped into parental-hierarchies to simplify or organize the scene.

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error
Create many many objects (~300-1000) and assign them parents. There should be enough objects to make the Outliner display the scrollboxes.
Pick some object in the scene and try to focus it in the Outliner.

Thank you

**System Information** all **Blender Version** blender-2.71-f37ec65-win64-vc9 **Short description of error** Pressing the Numpad dot key focuses the currently selected object in the Outliner. However if the object has a parent (or even deeper in a parent-tree) the Outliner fails to focus. Sometimes it scrolls to the parent sometimes it completely fails. Expected behavior is to open all parents until it finds the actual object and focus on it. This is very frequently used when objects are grouped into parental-hierarchies to simplify or organize the scene. **Exact steps for others to reproduce the error** Create many many objects (~300-1000) and assign them parents. There should be enough objects to make the Outliner display the scrollboxes. Pick some object in the scene and try to focus it in the Outliner. Thank you

Maverick commented

2014-07-26 17:21:35 +02:00

Changed status to: 'Open'

Maverick commented

2014-07-26 17:21:35 +02:00

Added subscriber: @dragostanasie

Maverick commented

2014-07-26 17:31:27 +02:00

Check the attached file. The "FIND ME" cube is selected.
Press the Numpad dot key in the Outliner. It will fail to focus on it.

outliner_focus_fail_bug.blend

Check the attached file. The "FIND ME" cube is selected. Press the Numpad dot key in the Outliner. It will fail to focus on it. [outliner_focus_fail_bug.blend](https://archive.blender.org/developer/F99685/outliner_focus_fail_bug.blend)

Bastien Montagne commented

2014-07-27 09:52:20 +02:00

Added subscribers: @JoshuaLeung, @mont29

Bastien Montagne commented

2014-07-27 09:52:20 +02:00

To me it’s working as expected (hence there is no bug), when selected object is in a parent hierarchy which is not open, it highlights its closest open ancestor…

Also opening the hierarchy could be noce, but this sounds like a feature request to me… Joshua, what do you think?

To me it’s working as expected (hence there is no bug), when selected object is in a parent hierarchy which is not open, it highlights its closest open ancestor… Also opening the hierarchy could be noce, but this sounds like a feature request to me… Joshua, what do you think?

Maverick commented

2014-07-27 14:35:57 +02:00

The user expects to find the selected object (like when it has no parent).
Highlighting the closest open ancestor is confusing in large hierarchies.

Example: car-->interior-->seat-->pocket

It also scrolls the view in a bad way, probably aligning it with the true object.
Looks more like a badly implemented feature or bug..

The user expects to find the selected object (like when it has no parent). Highlighting the closest open ancestor is confusing in large hierarchies. Example: car-->interior-->seat-->pocket It also scrolls the view in a bad way, probably aligning it with the true object. Looks more like a badly implemented feature or bug..

Jonathan Williamson commented

2014-08-03 15:56:45 +02:00

Added subscriber: @JonathanWilliamson

Jonathan Williamson commented

2014-08-03 15:56:45 +02:00

@mont29 is correct that this is not a bug, more a limitation. It does seem to me that it's something worth testing, though. I know I've wanted it to auto-open the parents many times.

Sergey Sharybin commented

2014-08-12 10:27:54 +02:00

Changed status from 'Open' to: 'Archived'

Sergey Sharybin closed this issue

2014-08-12 10:27:54 +02:00

Sergey Sharybin self-assigned this 2014-08-12 10:27:54 +02:00

Sergey Sharybin commented

2014-08-12 10:27:54 +02:00

outliner have loads of potential improvements, which are useful but not technically speaking a bug. Moving to a TODO now: http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Dev:2.5/Source/Development/Todo/Editors#Outliner

Thanks for the report anyway.

outliner have loads of potential improvements, which are useful but not technically speaking a bug. Moving to a TODO now: http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Dev:2.5/Source/Development/Todo/Editors#Outliner Thanks for the report anyway.

Maverick commented

2014-08-12 12:35:43 +02:00

Sorry but to me this just smells like a lazy/incomplete implementation of a feature, not a todo...The idea is to focus on the object when pressing that key.
All situations should be handled. Missed cases qualify as bugs.

Sorry but to me this just smells like a lazy/incomplete implementation of a feature, not a todo...The idea is to focus on the object when pressing that key. All situations should be handled. Missed cases qualify as bugs.

Sergey Sharybin commented

2014-08-12 13:00:28 +02:00

There are lots of areas wich doesn't work as good as artists might want to, but which works in the way how it was designed to which makes it technically not a subject of the bug tracker.

We would love to improve the outliner (ad other areas as well), but in this bug tracker we are mainly dealing with the actual bugs. We already have loads fo them here, and accepting quality bugs here would make the system really unmanageable here.

Don't worry, we will come to the outliner and improve it, it'll just take some time.

There are lots of areas wich doesn't work as good as artists might want to, but which works in the way how it was designed to which makes it technically not a subject of the bug tracker. We would love to improve the outliner (ad other areas as well), but in this bug tracker we are mainly dealing with the actual bugs. We already have loads fo them here, and accepting quality bugs here would make the system really unmanageable here. Don't worry, we will come to the outliner and improve it, it'll just take some time.

Philipp Oeser commented

2015-01-04 21:04:18 +01:00

Added subscriber: @lichtwerk

Philipp Oeser commented

2015-01-04 21:04:18 +01:00

I have a patch for this (see https://developer.blender.org/T42716 for details)

Philipp Oeser commented

2015-03-03 11:07:47 +01:00

This is actually in master now 3356f3f0bb.
Also removed this from the TODO here ...

This is actually in master now 3356f3f0bb. Also removed this from the TODO [here ](http://wiki.blender.org/index.php?title=Dev:2.5/Source/Development/Todo/Editors)...

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Outliner object focus fails for parented objects #41195